Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war

[FlyersFan]

They also wanted to trade freely with their fairly abundant resources, and not be under the control of a foreign nation.

They may want that, but they also want that foreign nation to pay for an unending war and to pay for keeping their economy floating.    They want a pile of free money, while at the same time wanting to trade freely the resources that our hundreds of billions keeps free for them.

Doesn't work that way.

Can't have both.

They'd have NO resources if it weren't for our 100 billion, and hundreds of billions more in the future.

Therefore .... they deal with us with the resources, or we stop handing them our hundreds of billions while getting nothing in exchange.

[putnam6]

They may want that, but they also want that foreign nation to pay for an unending war and to pay for keeping their economy floating.    They want a pile of free money, while at the same time wanting to trade freely the resources that our hundreds of billions keeps free for them.

Doesn't work that way.

Can't have both.

They'd have NO resources if it weren't for our 100 billion, and hundreds of billions more in the future.

Therefore .... they deal with us with the resources, or we stop handing them our hundreds of billions while getting nothing in exchange.

Exactly 

There might be a lot of faux international posturing going on, imagine if Europe had committed to this level before. Would we even be here?

Here's an interesting comment from X.com let's see what happens in Riyadh next week. Saudis could be involved in some form perhaps a lucrative deal for Russian raw materials, anything to grease the wheels of negotiations. 


https://x.com/StoopidLiberals/status/189...9055201751
 

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StoopidLiberals

@StoopidLiberals

Hear me out. I believe President Trump has deliberately provoked Europe, pushing them to take a more active role in defending Ukraine. His nonchalant approach to funding has ignited a surge of testosterone among European male leaders, a trait not typically seen in abundance on the continent. With Europe applying pressure and Zelensky’s prideful unwillingness to compromise, the conditions are now perfectly aligned for President Trump to broker a deal. And what a remarkable deal it will be.

[putnam6]

Are you really going there?

Did Putin care about his citizen's children lives?

Did Putin allow political rivals to challenge him?

What other leaders' and their children, in other countries around the world, have served their country in the military. I can only think of the U.K. royal family so far.

It wasn't that her children weren't being sent, it was how she laughingly shrugged it off. 

I thought Putin was different we all know he is particularly slimy.

All leaders are different but considering she represents 500 million Europeans it seemed rather flippant. 

As for the back and forth here we arent changing each other's minds here and even if we did it wouldn't change what will or wont happen in the real world. 

These things take time...

[quintessentone]

It wasn't that her children weren't being sent, it was how she laughingly shrugged it off. 

I thought Putin was different we all know he is particularly slimy.

All leaders are different but considering she represents 500 million Europeans it seemed rather flippant. 

As for the back and forth here we arent changing each other's minds here and even if we did it wouldn't change what will or wont happen in the real world. 

These things take time...

I think we are changing each others minds here, you, me, others from other countries here. We are the real world. We all want peace.

[putnam6]

So Europe decides 26-1 to defend Ukraine but can't agree on how to do so.
Thats the issue with a 26-country alliance they had better come up with something concrete that has some weight to it and quickly.


WORLD NEWSS 
Europe fails to reach a deal on Ukraine, rearmament after emergency talks end without agreement

By 
Anthony Blair
Published March 6, 2025, 6:41 p.m. ET

Europe remains divided on how to support Ukraine and shore up its defenses in the face of Russian aggression, as emergency summit talks ended without a consensus on Thursday.

A statement on Ukraine was signed by all but one of the 27 EU members with a lone country — believed to be Hungary — holding out.

As leaders pledged to ramp up defense spending, the main European powers couldn’t agree on what exactly that support for Ukraine might look like and how Europe should adapt to what many see as a new world order under President Trump.

 

[sahgwa]

Watch this. It's good raw intel from Ukrainians and Russians. No idea who the guy is, the ALGORITHM spat it at me. 

[putnam6]

Well it's kinda hard to compare 2014 to 2022.

In 2014 Russia invaded an area of Crimea that was majority Russian Sepratist. it wasn't Russia vs. Ukraine so much as Russia supporting Ukrainian Separatists vs. Ukraine. Obama was prudent to stay the hell out of it. It was more of a civil war.

This was a full-scale invasion of a sovereign nation to the capital for invented propaganda reasons. The Banderas and such going for "Most Ironic Invasion Ever." Their own 90% inoperable Shock and Awe. Totally different scenario.

And while now it's fallen into territory with allegiance closer to Crimea, it's still a different situation. The world had reason the second time that wasn't available the first time, and America was still part of the world then.

That's a helluva rationalization, so after a short 8 years Crimea was now defacto Ukrainian sovereign territory, and at least early on it was insisted it be returned to Ukraine?  You know after it was ethnically cleansed... sort of like shelling Donbas and Lughantz are the opening salvos to cleanse those nasty oblasts...

[putnam6]

Watch this. It's good raw intel from Ukrainians and Russians. No idea who the guy is, the ALGORITHM spat it at me. 

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg3tCOdLW7Q]

Good video

he isn't wrong.... the young Ukrainian man here in New York saying we should send US troops .....

[sahgwa]

'I ran away from fighting but you should send your soldiers instead'

[guyfriday]

'I ran away from fighting but you should send your soldiers instead'

This sadly says a lot about the public appearances of the Ukrainian people. During the last great war (WW1 and WW2) the people that were being attacked fought as hard and, in many cases, harder than the forces that went in to save them. Now we have these people coming out of the WEF Playbook, and they make it seem that the Ukrainians are in need of others to fight because they can't handle the fight.

I know a few Ukrainians that have been here for a couple of generations, and they get really pissed off about these people coming forward and making statements like this ass.