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(09-27-2025, 02:13 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: People keep going back to the 'America leads the world' thing.
But that doesn't change the fact that Americans don't care what foreigners think of America.
Much as people in England don't care what foreigners think of England.
That's just the way it is.
Foreigners can have opinions for sure.   
But citizens of those countries really don't care.   IMHO.
And I mean that for everyone everywhere, not just Americans. 
That's been my experience.

Well as you pointed out earlier that resorting to instantly calling someone a Nazi is pretty much waving a white flag, calling 'foreigner' to a retort is pretty much the same.

America in it's fight to bring democracy and capitalism to the free world became the world police, and leader of the free world. the US dropped a very big bomb to take that position. It happened and there's not much anyone can do about it without causing WW3.
Both sides feel they have a vest interest in the other, and what happens in one tends to trickle down to the other in some form.   Biggrin



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
Hillary Clinton during her campaign rally -
Quote:“I think we’ve got to have tough conditions. Tell people to come out of the shadows. If they’ve committed a crime, deport them. No questions asked. They’re gone. If they’ve been working and are law-abiding, we should say, ‘Here are the conditions for you staying. You have to pay a stiff fine because you came here illegally. You have to pay back taxes. And, you have to try to learn English. And, you have to wait in line,’” she said at the rally.

Bill Clinton-
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...nton-1996/
Quote:As president, Clinton deported 12.3 million people,


Barack Obama -
Quote: 
During his eight years in office, the Obama administration deported approximately 2.7 to 3.2 million individuals. 


So, somebody want to tell me why the Democrats are fighting so hard to keep illegals in this country ?
(09-27-2025, 02:30 PM)Kurokage Wrote: Well as you pointed out earlier that resorting to instantly calling someone a Nazi is pretty much waving a white flag, calling 'foreigner' to a retort is pretty much the same.

Nah.   I"m saying that Americans don't care about the opinion of foreigners about our own country.  Just as foreigners don't care about the opinion of us in regards to their country.   You just saw it here a few pages ago when someone from England said 'fuck off' to Trump/Vance and their opinion about England.    No one really cares about the opinion of people outside their country about their own country.    They just don't.   It's not just Americans with that attitude.
(09-27-2025, 02:32 PM)David64 Wrote: Hillary Clinton during her campaign rally -

Bill Clinton-
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...nton-1996/


Barack Obama -


So, somebody want to tell me why the Democrats are fighting so hard to keep illegals in this country ?

It makes no sense, unless they were lying about their numbers to begin with.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(09-27-2025, 02:26 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Absolutely.   
The right makes it political. 
The left makes it political.
It's hardly ever not political.
It's all about votes and money.

I think everyone on the site can agree on that!  Lol

But I do think Trump sending troops to mainly democratic states is his attempt at sending a 'message'



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
Sadly... polls are rarely "paid for" without an accompanying narrative in mind.

They might be useful...

If nobody gave a crap about the results... meaning no agenda with which to lens the "meaning" of the results.
(09-27-2025, 02:37 PM)Kurokage Wrote: But I do think Trump sending troops to mainly democratic states is his attempt at sending a 'message'

I"m sure he's enjoying the power thing over them since the Democrats tried to destroy him.
No doubt.  

But I do think sending the Guard into DC was necessary.
I told the story earlier in this thread.
We used to go there all the time.  We live 2 hours north.
Spent a lot of time there.  It was fine.  But then it changed.
Trash everywhere.  Criminals everywhere.   Homeless everywhere. 
Lots of places boarded up.    
It wasn't safe.   We stayed away.   The troops going to DC were necessary.
DC couldn't keep up with the crime and the problems.
(09-27-2025, 02:32 PM)David64 Wrote: Hillary Clinton during her campaign rally -

Bill Clinton-
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/20...nton-1996/


Barack Obama -


So, somebody want to tell me why the Democrats are fighting so hard to keep illegals in this country ?

Because they are a huge block of thier voter base... Lol Lol

At the very least, it disrupted their political district terraforming

at worst, politicians are grifting from the huge sums of money being thrown  around in blue-dominated cities
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(09-27-2025, 02:10 PM)quintessentone Wrote: There are two different partisan sides telling everyone how they feel. Are you only paying attention to one side? 

ANNEE is coming up with the poll of all polls, so stay tuned.

How are you guys communicating to coordinate this effort? I'll stay tuned for the poll of all polls and I am watching both sides although in my opinion I dont like the ANNEE channel very often but im a pretty big fan of the andy channel he's kinder in his display of his side and it makes it easier to consider than it does, say, Carp's side who seems to constantly stab wildly the US leadership in their metaphorical faces. I'd say take a page from Andy and be calm about it and people would see your side more often. Hard to see through a sky of daggers doesnt it? Lol it is kinda fun to watch though
We can all argue about the reasons, justified or not.

Regardless, illegal aliens are getting arrested and deported.

And that's a good thing.

Unless you wanted rapists, murders set free and roaming our country.  And some do want that.  

It's part of the Cloward-Piven Strategy.

It's also in Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.



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