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02-05-2025, 09:16 PM
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(02-05-2025, 01:11 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "Or things surrounding his infant second term when they become relevant. Especially that which makes me say, "Oh come on, what the f*ck?"
I'd be interested in whether his proposal to take over Gaza, expel it's people and build a "Riviera of the Middle East" might make you say that? ?
I wonder how that ties in with his American isolationist policies? You know, buying sovereign countries, forcing vast populations out of their national boundaries and just taking over?
'Cause China building up islands in the "South China Sea" is imperialist expansionism, and this other stuff isn't, right?
:P
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Just watching Question Time on BBC (yes some won't like that) and one contributor described DJT as "a copper bottomed Ocean going imbecile" after his Gaza proposal.
Hmmmm.....
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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02-07-2025, 12:39 AM
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(02-06-2025, 06:09 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Just watching Question Time on BBC (yes some won't like that) and one contributor described DJT as "a copper bottomed Ocean going imbecile" after his Gaza proposal.
Hmmmm.....
No... Let's own Gaza.
Expell the entire population and inherent a salvage yard.
Maybe it's like good cop/bad cop with Israel?
Maybe there's some objectivist logic here.
Like Trump is the mean cop.
"What we should do is expell all of you and turn this in to our own exclave, You lose everything."
Then Israel comes in and their proposal of disarming Hamas completely and control over the territory isn't as bad, because they'll still get to stay.
Or at least I hope it's his basic MO of being the epitome of a Paper Tiger as a negotiation tactic.
Just propose something bat shit insane to get a more sensible outcome. Like fear of Trump actually taking over Gaza gets everyone to the table of serious proposals.
Demanding the first born children be sacrificed makes the actual peace deal, normally "a non-starter," seem better by contrast.
So it's like psychological thing cops would do to get a confession.
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(02-07-2025, 12:39 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: No... Let's own Gaza.
Expell the entire population and inherent a salvage yard.
Maybe it's like good cop/bad cop with Israel?
Maybe there's some objectivist logic here.
Like Trump is the mean cop.
"What we should do is expell all of you and turn this in to our own enclave, You lose everything."
Then Israel comes in and their proposal of disarming Hamas completely and control over the territory isn't as bad, because they'll still get to stay.
Or at least I hope it's his basic MO of being the epitome of a Paper Tiger as a negotiation tactic.
Just propose something bat shit insane to get a more sensible outcome. Like fear of Trump actually taking over Gaza gets everyone to the table of serious proposals.
Demanding the first born children be sacrificed makes the actual peace deal, normally "a non-starter," seem better by contrast.
So it's like psychological thing cops would do to get a confession.
It is definitely a negotiation tactic, it's to jumpstart the rest of the Middle East into being proactive and taking a different approach instead of pumping billions in humanitarian aid into Gaza for Hamas to embezzle and control.
All it may take is the fear the US will send troops to establish a more permanent presence, for the Arab world to come up with a peaceful Arab solution.
Will it work? Who knows but you have to agree the decade and a half of pumping unaudited or controlled funds into Gaza ONLY benefited Hamas and helped create where we are now
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02-07-2025, 01:17 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloff...o-plastic/
He's going to sign an Executive Order outlawing "woke" paper straws.
"Plastic straws are construed as one of the largest contributors to plastic waste in oceans and coastal zones in the world. Most plastic straws can't be recycled because the material they're made of has no other practical use, and they're non-biodegradable, meaning they can't be broken down by bacteria or other natural decomposers. Straws are particularly prone to ending up in waterways due to beach littering and winds that blow the lightweight items from trash cans, boats and other places into water, according to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums, where aquatic life is in danger of ingesting it. And because they never fully decompose, straws tend to break into ever-smaller particles that release chemicals into the soil, air and water that can harm animals, plants and the environment. As many as 70% of seabirds and 30% of turtles are estimated to have ingested some type of plastic from the ocean in their lifetime."
Fun fact:
"In 2019, Trump sold thousands of branded plastic straws on his campaign website, calling them an alternative to "liberal" paper straws. The straws, which sold for $15 for 10, initially sold out online, Trump's campaign manager reported. The straws were bright red and laser-engraved with the word Trump. "Liberal paper straws don't work. Stand with President Trump and buy your recyclable straws today," the listing said."
I mean, WTAF?
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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02-07-2025, 03:45 PM
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(02-07-2025, 01:17 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloff...o-plastic/
He's going to sign an Executive Order outlawing "woke" paper straws.
"Plastic straws are construed as one of the largest contributors to plastic waste in oceans and coastal zones in the world. Most plastic straws can't be recycled because the material they're made of has no other practical use, and they're non-biodegradable, meaning they can't be broken down by bacteria or other natural decomposers. Straws are particularly prone to ending up in waterways due to beach littering and winds that blow the lightweight items from trash cans, boats and other places into water, according to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums, where aquatic life is in danger of ingesting it. And because they never fully decompose, straws tend to break into ever-smaller particles that release chemicals into the soil, air and water that can harm animals, plants and the environment. As many as 70% of seabirds and 30% of turtles are estimated to have ingested some type of plastic from the ocean in their lifetime."
Fun fact:
"In 2019, Trump sold thousands of branded plastic straws on his campaign website, calling them an alternative to "liberal" paper straws. The straws, which sold for $15 for 10, initially sold out online, Trump's campaign manager reported. The straws were bright red and laser-engraved with the word Trump. "Liberal paper straws don't work. Stand with President Trump and buy your recyclable straws today," the listing said."
I mean, WTAF?
The Great garbage patch, as well as the plastic content of sea birds, is an invention of liberal media to scare you into green control trends like biodegradable paper straws that (really) don't work.
Microplastic contamination is used as a scare tactic like sea level rise, overpopulation/sustainability, or livestock methane to brainwash people to an evil woke agenda to buy out all of John Mellencamp's pink houses and sell them non-binary vegan Gen Z kids.
Change of ingrained cultural standards are generally rejected over here. Things introduced as better must not upend things in a foundational way. The Americana of rounders and apfel strudel baseball and apple pie must not be meddled with.
We'll change your national anthem and use it as an imperialist brainwashing parody, but not change the use of the disjointed imperial measurement system your monarchy devised from parts of their anatomy.
'Merica.
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Imagine what archeologists will say when they find some Trump straws 50,000 years from now!
(02-07-2025, 01:17 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloff...o-plastic/
He's going to sign an Executive Order outlawing "woke" paper straws.
"Plastic straws are construed as one of the largest contributors to plastic waste in oceans and coastal zones in the world. Most plastic straws can't be recycled because the material they're made of has no other practical use, and they're non-biodegradable, meaning they can't be broken down by bacteria or other natural decomposers. Straws are particularly prone to ending up in waterways due to beach littering and winds that blow the lightweight items from trash cans, boats and other places into water, according to the Association of Zoos and Aquariums, where aquatic life is in danger of ingesting it. And because they never fully decompose, straws tend to break into ever-smaller particles that release chemicals into the soil, air and water that can harm animals, plants and the environment. As many as 70% of seabirds and 30% of turtles are estimated to have ingested some type of plastic from the ocean in their lifetime."
Fun fact:
"In 2019, Trump sold thousands of branded plastic straws on his campaign website, calling them an alternative to "liberal" paper straws. The straws, which sold for $15 for 10, initially sold out online, Trump's campaign manager reported. The straws were bright red and laser-engraved with the word Trump. "Liberal paper straws don't work. Stand with President Trump and buy your recyclable straws today," the listing said."
I mean, WTAF?
It's Büeller Time
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"Imagine what archeologists will say when they find some Trump straws 50,000 years from now! Lol"
At a guess:
"Oh come on, what the f*ck?"
I now know why I am called a grown up. Every time I get up I groan.
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02-08-2025, 06:34 PM
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Edit Reason: Rephrased + many dyslexia edits + a "neurosis" that keeps me adding to it. New record!
 
For the neurosis thread, a fork in the road..
https://www.kpbs.org/news/politics/2025/...yout-offer
Quote:The Trump administration’s offer to 2 million federal workers to resign by Thursday has left the office feeling under siege.
The Office of Personnel Management sent an email titled “fork in the road” to federal employees on Jan. 28. It said the aim is to reform and streamline the workforce and offers everyone a chance to resign. The email also states workers will now be subject to “enhanced standards of suitability” and should be “reliable, loyal and trustworthy.
And not a word about the constitution. I'm thinking The whole Loyality bit is most important. Like avoiding a situation where your joint chief rightfully calls you a
fascist, because you were acting like one. Or Caligula. The apex toxic male pufferfish and megalomaniac narcissist. Who like Trump, could only abide subservient yes-people incapable of questoning anything. It's their comfort zone.
"See, we could get things done the way we want if we buy out and demonize the opposition.. and be sure to cry extensively that woke ideology did it first with environmentism and DEI. Make our people angry that pronouns and immigrants are the loss of democracy. And then we can do whatever the hell we want with it."
So once more, are we sure this isn't Project 2025 in action? Had a whole section on doing exactly this.
2 million government employees need to be cleared out because the will of the ruling [expletives] can't be questioned or called out for anything? Really comes off that way. Efficiency and streamlined as a euphemism for a calvary of sycophants. Ones that no longer vote democrat 3 out of every 4 times.
But at least it's a borderline fascist takeover. Other terms also apply. Like "monarchy" and "autocrat." And at least it upholds free speech, so I can totally say things Putin would Imprison or kill or imprison and kill people for saying.
Speaking of which...
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Neurosis indeed...
Our government closed down for COVID and suffocated hundreds of thousands of small businesses, our government also fired hundreds of thousands of Federal workers for refusing to get the COVID-19 vaccines.
Those who opposed such actions were called much worse than neurotic.
https://www.ktsm.com/news/thousands-of-f...e-mandate/
Quote:EL PASO, Texas (KTSM) – The Biden administration’s federal COVID-19 vaccine mandate officially went into effect on Monday, meaning that all federal employees must have been fully vaccinated, or they could possibly lose their jobs.
President Joe Biden announced in September that more than 3.5 million federal workers were required to get the vaccine, and no option is being given to get weekly COVID-19 tests instead.
A spokesperson from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) said that 7% of TSA agents have not met the deadline, meaning that about 4,200 agents nationwide might lose their jobs right before the holidays.
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