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Trump Executive Order okays incarceration of homeless
(07-26-2025, 12:15 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Every illegal here is breaking the law.
If you’re here illegally, you’re committing a crime.
100% crime rate from the illegal community.
Self deportation is the proper move. (No crying)
Otherwise, it’s FAFO time.(lots of crying)

The money we save from wasting it on illegals is going to pay to help the homeless.
The Gavin newsome way obviously hasn’t worked.

It hasn’t worked here in Massachusetts either.  I know several self employed seniors who have very good insurance (a couple are self employed), who have serious medical conditions who were recently told there are currently no waiting lists for primary care providers, so one woman has to close down her shop (she’s an art framer) for a year because she cannot physically do it until she has shoulder surgery.  She was hit by an illegal on a highway who took off, leaving her stuck with the bills.

She has always been good to everyone she meets and helps everyone she can, and the poor woman can’t get help yet had paid into the system her whole life.

i also went two years without a primary care physician due to the immigrant In-surge.  Medical assistants and personnel have explained to me they are getting preferential treatment.  I had CVI in one leg.  Couldn’t understand why I was having irregular heartbeats, breathing problems and serious leg problems.  I finally found a PCP (after Trump got in office) and had the surgery I needed. I was so close to having to apply for disability, I could barely walk and I am walking around at my job for 10 hours some days.

I’ve had neighbors from Haiti that were not only driving brand new cars, flooding the apts, not working, harassing neighbors, taking vacations, and sending shit tons of money back to Haiti 
Via Western Union (you see it everywhere).  How and whom is that profitable for?  Not the working taxpayers, it gets syphoned off by NGOs and some government officials.  Check out Nate Friedman, he’s got tons of videos out there.  I also had a neighbor child who was raped by an illegal Haitian, so I’m against people coming here illegally and breaking our laws.

People are also leaving Mass in droves, and someday I hope to be one of them.  

No other country allows foreigners to walk in, get exorbitant amounts of cash/food assistance, free housing, free classes/training, easy access to drivers licenses (I have heard they have interpreters helping them take the test; and as many times as I’ve seen them driving in the wrong lane or going down a one way street I’m inclined to believe them.  Also, they drive likethey are in NASCAR.  They drive over speed bumps like they don’t exist.

i wouldn’t feel right taking from others who have paid their ways, but clearly, others do not care about what is right.  Too much fake virtue signaling IMO.

its all fun and games until you’re the victim!
In tune
(07-28-2025, 10:47 AM)Bootless Wrote: Speaking of journalism, I re-read the NPR article that was linked on the video page. Amid record homelessness, a Texas think tank tries to upend how states tackle it
The question in my mind was "Just exactly who is it that writes these executive orders?" Not Trump, obviously. They never say who wrote them.

Quoting the article:

Who is Joe Lansdale?
Peter Thiel was his mentor and co-founder of Palantir. Interesting! Data mining and AI targeting of people to kill. That's Palantir's claim to fame.

What can I say? This is a conspiracy theory site after all.

The likely answer is that the EO was written in the legal dept of The Cicero Institute. Outfits that Thiel and Lonsdale own are raking in big bucks from state and local grants, and now they will score big federal grants.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI]

More on Palantir:

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"Homelessness continues to be a crisis across America. Many states and cities have taken a punitive approach to the problem, making homeless encampments illegal.
 A think tank created by Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale has been pushing those laws.
The Austin-based Cicero Institute has worked for several years to pass laws in a slew of states criminalizing "public camping," levying fines and jail time against those who seek shelter in outdoor public places, Vice recently reported.

In 2021, Texas became the first state to pass a Cicero-inspired state-wide law, making public camping ​​a Class C misdemeanor punishable with up to a $500 fine. The law also blocks local governments from adopting less stringent punishments by stripping state funding for any city that doesn't implement it. 

Missouri passed a version of Cicero's model bill late last year. Several other states — including Kansas, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma — have also proposed legislation based on Cicero's bill, Stateline found. "

Link

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(07-25-2025, 09:22 PM)ANNEE Wrote:  Compassionate?

I’ll believe that when I see it.

These are the same people fighting against red flag laws where the punishment is taking away your firearm... while at the same time claiming to be ok with a similar threshold of proof will take away your freedom to exist in public.
(07-28-2025, 02:29 PM)Sarnaxx Wrote: These are the same people fighting against red flag laws where the punishment is taking away your firearm... while at the same time claiming to be ok with a similar threshold of proof will take away your freedom to exist in public.



Shall not be infringed.

Also, please point out in the bill of rights where it says you are free to take a dump or shoot heroin on the sidewalk.
(07-28-2025, 02:29 PM)Sarnaxx Wrote: These are the same people fighting against red flag laws where the punishment is taking away your firearm... while at the same time claiming to be ok with a similar threshold of proof will take away your freedom to exist in public.

The NRA was allowed to define the 2nd Amendment. 

That’s a totally different discussion and thread.
(07-28-2025, 02:27 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: More on Palantir:

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...rome~2.jpg]

For just a moment I had some hope for humanity.

In the course of regular human affairs, we try a thing and try something else.
It would be like in the movie Christmas Every Day (1986)
Quote:11:03 They got so poor that everybody had to
go to the poorhouse.
The poor houses got so full they had to send the
people back to their own homes. 


Of course the home of the homeless is wherever they can cop a squat.

I thought that it would be enough to jail people until the jails were full. But reading the whole Wikipedia on Palantir Technologies has filled me with despair.

Contracts with every country that can afford it. Buying their way into British Medicine. Getting ever scrap of intel, including medical records, Social Security, Psych records, criminal records, and etc. on everyone. Defense and Intel agency contracts up the wazoo from multiple countries.

It's positioned to be the greatest monopoly in history. Too big to fail, because vital government services are performed by them all across the globe.It's Skynet (Terminator) only not self aware. Controlled by freaking plutocrats who don't give a crap about regular people, except ... something.

The something is probably pay taxes to governments which in turn funnel the money to them. The uber rich get exempted from paying taxes because they need the extra money to fund politicians. But the non-tax-paying people in the lower 10% of the 99% are useless to plutocrats. Expendable.


[ Note: It may be advisable to disregard the last two paragraphs. I am a pessimist. ]
There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. - Commander William Adama
(07-28-2025, 03:27 PM)Bootless Wrote: For just a moment I had some hope for humanity.

In the course of regular human affairs, we try a thing and try something else.
It would be like in the movie Christmas Every Day (1986)
[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpkAtfIkgic]
Of course the home of the homeless is wherever they can cop a squat.

I thought that it would be enough to jail people until the jails were full. But reading the whole Wikipedia on Palantir Technologies has filled me with despair.

Contracts with every country that can afford it. Buying their way into British Medicine. Getting ever scrap of intel, including medical records, Social Security, Psych records, criminal records, and etc. on everyone. Defense and Intel agency contracts up the wazoo from multiple countries.

It's positioned to be the greatest monopoly in history. Too big to fail, because vital government services are performed by them all across the globe.It's Skynet (Terminator) only not self aware. Controlled by freaking plutocrats who don't give a crap about regular people, except ... something.

The something is probably pay taxes to governments which in turn funnel the money to them. The uber rich get exempted from paying taxes because they need the extra money to fund politicians. But the non-tax-paying people in the lower 10% of the 99% are useless to plutocrats. Expendable.


Yes, Palantir is the Silicon Valley company that will guide Trump and Vance through our transition into the AI surveilled Technocracy they are structuring and implementing right now.

Some people were suspicious that the pandemic was intentionally released to activate a global depopulation agenda

What if there's an initiative to "disappear" the homeless population as a continuation of a depop agenda?

As AI & automation take over the workforce, more people will be jobless. The homeless population is going to skyrocket

What do the powerful tech leaders do with all these useless people who now serve no purpose in the 4th Industrial Revolution?
(07-28-2025, 02:44 PM)ANNEE Wrote: The NRA was allowed to define the 2nd Amendment. 

That’s a totally different discussion and thread.

But never put into Law  Lol
The solution to homelessness: Take them off the streets and put them in jail!

Anything to avoid having to deal with the actual causes of homelessness. Typical display of the moral bankruptcy of American culture.
(07-29-2025, 01:58 AM)Ignorant Wrote: The solution to homelessness: Take them off the streets and put them in jail!

Anything to avoid having to deal with the actual causes of homelessness. Typical display of the moral bankruptcy of American culture.

They are basically bringing back the workhouse for the impoverished and indebted.

Welcome to the Victorian 1830s America.

King Trump to the rescue.   Thumbdown
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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