Trump Memo To Federal Agencies Encourages Workplace Proselytizing.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Given it's own thread.  

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-a...s-beliefs/

 

The Trump administration on Monday told federal workers they can talk about religion at work, including by trying to "persuade others of the correctness of their own religious views."

In a memo to the heads of federal agencies, the Office of Personnel Management — the government's human resources arm — said public employees have the right to religious expression in the workplace, citing civil rights law and the First Amendment. That includes the right to discuss religion, engage in "communal religious expressions" and display items such as bibles, crucifixes and mezuzahs on their desks, the memo states.

Yay god! 

I'm not gonna bite with anger on this one, because it's worded as equal opportunity. So it's equal opportunity and no one religion will be promoted. And It must stay that way to keep its tenuous constitutional position. 

So... what would you put on your desk as your free religious expression if you were a government employee?

Could they stop a voodoo doll? A decorative wiccan altar? The Necronomicon?

Could they stop you practicing on your voodoo ddol.in your down time? Could you sit at your desk, give someone across the office a dead-eyed stare (like Aubrey Plaza) and slowly stick pins into a doll while looking at them?  If you're an occult person, could you find your favorite logo from The Lesser Key Of Solomon and frame the seal of your patron demon? Maybe add a winged hemophrodite statue? 

I have an impulse in me that would deliberately push the limits of this, without bitching, and I know im not alone in this urge. Like a counter to Trump's urge to goad the chruch/state separation issue.

Like he said you can now openly try to persuade people about their correctness of their religious beliefs in the federal workplace, so could an aspiring LHP know-it-all type walk around the office and talk down to everyone when they bring up their religion.

"I think you all act like a gang of monkeys without an original thought. I think you are all victims of epic herd mentality, dogmatic brainwashing, and should consider breaking the chains of your mental enslavement to the abstract by considering ________"

Is there a religion off limits to persuade people on?

[Creaky]

Is there a religion off limits to persuade people on?

Wow you Poor thing, imagine, people going to work being allowed to discuss what ever they want without being Molly coddled by government bureaucracy 
Pretty sure when I was a kid in the work place, I survived listening to other peoples views, pretty sure you might
Its not that hard to deal with

[David64]

I would put up a sign. I actually have this as a bumper sticker on my truck.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Wow you Poor thing, imagine, people going to work being allowed to discuss what ever they want without being Molly coddled by government bureaucracy 
Pretty sure when I was a kid in the work place, I survived listening to other peoples views, pretty sure you might
Its not that hard to deal with

You didn't answer the question though. You quoted it, but didn't answer it. 

So is there a religion or display off limits?

I'd pick something minimally offensive, but still poke fun at it all somehow. 

Suppose I set up a St. Peter candle altar. But I added some flowers, oils, herbs, (Myrrh, sandlewood, ginger) coins, and things my chosen saint would enjoy.  The purpose of my use of "Ogun" (St. Peter) is to promote achievment, cooperation, and good luck at work.

But I technically have a witchcraft altar on my desk. Soy Bruja y Santera. And I could explain it's an altar to Ogun based on a hybridization of Yoruba Religion and Catholicism. It could be a display as milquetoast as ever, but if its learned to be an actual magic altar all it needs is one church lady to start a fearful "opening demonic portals" campaign.

So as long as that's all okay regardless of anyone else's superstition.

[David64]

On 2nd thought, I'd do this every time someone started pushing their religion.

[Kurokage]

https://occultpatchespins.co.uk/blogs/ne...-the-world

In the U.S., Satanism has gained significant visibility, especially with the rise of the Satanic Temple (TST). A 2020 report noted that TST had grown to an estimated 300,000 registered members - a sharp increase from its earlier figures of around 10,000 in 2014. However, this number represents registered supporters rather than active participants, and the group’s global presence complicates the data.
In terms of religious surveys, groups like Pew Research tend to bundle Satanists into broader categories of "Other Religions" or "Unaffiliated." This makes it difficult to pinpoint exact numbers, though it’s believed that a small but consistent fraction of self-identified atheists or agnostics also align with Satanic beliefs.

How would you feel if a 'Satanist' popped an alter up on their desk?

With religious Fundamentalists nutcases on all sides. How long do you think it will be before people are on the 'News' for fighting and religious hatred at work?
You don't go to work for someone to try to covert you day in day out.

[Creaky]

You didn't answer the question though. You quoted it, but didn't answer it. 

So is there a religion or display off limits?

Id pick something minimally offensive, but still poke fun at it all somehow. 

Suppose I set up a St. Peter candle Altar. But I added some flowers, oils, herbs, (Myrrh, sandlewood, ginger) coins, and things my chosen saint would enjoy.  The purpose of my use of "Ogun" (St. Peter) is to promote achievment, cooperation, and good luck in work.

But I technically have a witchcraft altar on my desk. Soy Bruja o Santera. And I could explain it's an altar to Ogun based on a hybridization of Yoruba Religion and Catholicism which arose in the Carribean. 

So as long as that's okay.

I think if we are all grown adults, it’s important to remember a bit of respect, no matter our beliefs 
I can walk around the streets of Asia and not be offended by Hindu or Buddhist display, also not silly enough to get offended or be disrespectful to people with little witchcraft alters on their desk. 
I have worked with many different faiths and cultures with little to no issue
(not big on feminists, does that count as a religion?)

[David64]

On 2nd thought, I'd do this every time someone started pushing their religion.

[Creaky]

On 2nd thought, I'd do this every time someone started pushing their religion

I use to “raise my hands” and pray like a US Tele evangelist casting out demons on JW door knockers 
they have never come back plus 10 years 
whatever works

[quintessentone]

There's a very good reason why there is this saying:

"A rule of etiquette—in business, at the dinner table, at the barbershop and elsewhere—is “never talk about religion or politics.” These subjects are highly contentious and usually result in heated argument instead of general agreement. “Never discuss religion or politics with those who hold opinions opposite to yours” has been cited in print since at least 1840. “Do not discuss politics or religion in general company” is from 1879."

"Never talk about religion or politics"…

Now imagine your co-worker carrying a gun and being that sort of person that can't control their emotions and think a gun will solve the problem.