Trump Executive Order okays incarceration of homeless

[Vermilion]

baddmove Wrote:Do ANY of you Liberals SEE any good in ANYTHING president Trump does?

I mean anything?


I voted for Trump one time

Once was enough 

He's proven himself to be part of the swamp

He's corrupted and can't be trusted


Maybe when Trump completely destroys the middle class...when all the retirement accounts are emptied and we get hit with mass layoffs due to automation...

People will have a different perspective on homelessness

This post right here ^
is proof Trump is a genius when it comes to housing.
He’s been living rent free in liberals heads for decades.

[cherokeetroy]

Vermilion wrote:

This post right here ^
is proof Trump is a genius when it comes to housing.
He’s been living rent free in liberals heads for decade
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How are Tulsi's Russiagate bombshells and receipts coming along?

[xuenchen]

Ah, the classic myth, undocumented immigrants get a free pass to commit crimes.

Cute, but wrong.

Data from multiple studies show they commit crimes at lower rates than US born citizens.

And when they do offend, they face far severe consequences, including deportation.

Anyone committing crimes should face penalties.

As for your philosophical flourish, yes, crime requires order, like theft needs property.

But that doesn't justify crime, nor does it mean immigrants somehow create crime.

If you want to blame someone for crime, try looking at poverty and inequality not immigrants just trying to survive.

Great!! That clears it all up now!  Illegal Migrants can break laws and keep screwing regular Citizens! 
They must be in a protected Class! 
Glad you agree they shouldn't get a free pass while nobody else does. 

[xuenchen]

Vermilion wrote:

This post right here ^
is proof Trump is a genius when it comes to housing.
He’s been living rent free in liberals heads for decade
____________________________________________________

How are Tulsi's Russiagate bombshells and receipts coming along?

Just getting started! What did you want? Immediate Justice? 

[andy06shake]

Great!! That clears it all up now!  Illegal Migrants can break laws and keep screwing regular Citizens! 
They must be in a protected Class! 
Glad you agree they shouldn't get a free pass while nobody else does. 

Adorable, you read all that evidence and still clung to the narrative like a comfort blanket.

No, undocumented immigrants are not in a ""protected class"" with crime immunity.

In actual reality, they're often punished more harshly and their criminal charges can lead to detention, deportation, and permanent bans from you're country.

That's not a "free pass" it's a trapdoor.

But you be sure to keep blaming the group that statistically offends less.

After all, that's easier than facing the real problems like the systemic inequality that's rife or your crumbling institutions.

[andy06shake]

Every illegal here is breaking the law.
If you’re here illegally, you’re committing a crime.
100% crime rate from the illegal community.
Self deportation is the proper move. (No crying)
Otherwise, it’s FAFO time.(lots of crying)

The money we save from wasting it on illegals is going to pay to help the homeless.
The Gavin newsome way obviously hasn’t worked.

By the sounds of it, you mean the money will pay to lock up and incarcerate the homeless. 

And being undocumented is a civil violation, entering without inspection is a misdemeanor, and overstaying a visa isn’t a criminal offence at all.

So no, it's not a 100% "crime rate."

That’s like calling jaywalking a violent offense.

As for cost?

Immigrants, legal or not, contribute billions in taxes and contribute to Social Security they’ll never collect.

Removing them will simply shrink the economy and actually increase labor shortages.

And no, the money doesn't magically reroute to help the homeless, ffs if only governance were that cartoonishly simple.

[Vermilion]

Adorable, you read all that evidence and still clung to the narrative like a comfort blanket.

No, undocumented immigrants are not in a ""protected class"" with crime immunity.

In actual reality, they're often punished more harshly and their criminal charges can lead to detention, deportation, and permanent bans from you're country.

That's not a "free pass" it's a trapdoor.

But you be sure to keep blaming the group that statistically offends less.

After all, that's easier than facing the real problems like the systemic inequality that's rife or your crumbling institutions.

Punished more harshly by detaining them, deporting them and banning them? LoL
What is harsh about that?
Its just, as in justice.
Crime and consequences.

[andy06shake]

Punished more harshly by detaining them, deporting them and banning them? LoL
What is harsh about that?
Its just, as in justice.
Crime and consequences.

Yeah, and there is a reason why she is blind, and not necessarily the one imagined. 

Deportation means separating families, sending people back to life-threatening conditions, where they may be punished for minor infractions with life-altering outcomes.

Justice weighs intent, context, and harm, it is not just a technical term.

And some of the people being deported have resided in your nation for decades whilst contributing to society, working jobs and paying taxes.

But sure, if your justice system fits on a bumper sticker, go ahead and call it fair.

I mean, your own POTUS mother was an immigrant, im just not sure where this ends. 

But it's in tears for a hell of a lot of people.

And they are not all criminals and drug dealers either.

[Vermilion]

By the sounds of it, you mean the money will pay to lock up and incarcerate the homeless. 

And being undocumented is a civil violation, entering without inspection is a misdemeanor, and overstaying a visa isn’t a criminal offence at all.

So no, it's not a 100% "crime rate."

That’s like calling jaywalking a violent offense.

As for cost?

Immigrants, legal or not, contribute billions in taxes and contribute to Social Security they’ll never collect.

Removing them will simply shrink the economy and actually increase labor shortages.

And no, the money doesn't magically reroute to help the homeless, ffs if only governance were that cartoonishly simple.

If some stranger crawls through a window into your house, what are you going to do?
If some homeless person is shooting dope on the sidewalk in front of your home, what are you going to do?

Increase labor shortage?
You really mean slave labor.
America abolished slavery.
If they’re such amazing contributors, they’ll have no problem making their own countries great.
Just being here they are a net loss for America in every metric.
The citizen homeless deserve the help and respect, not the illegals.

[Maxmars]

I am not comfortable with the use of Gestapo tactics to deal with fellow humans.

And I especially fear for those subject to "We can do whatever we want... we represent "law."

It seems yet another example of reducing humans to a single dimension of legitimacy.

We will be judged, at least in retrospect not by the virtue signaling of patriotism,
not by the masterful corralling of individuals and clusters of people in the "wrong."

But by how many go from bad to worse.
How many die or are "lost."
How much infliction of brutality and force is called down by
the "law" (or at least 'allowed' to happen.) 

How poorly people fair after the good and honorable people seize them...

That's where 'government' shows us who "they" are.