The helicopter of ancient Egypt

[BeTheGoddess]

Learn more about quartz, you rember making crystal radios as kids, and that tacky Seiko watch you wear...

[sahgwa]

The glyphs are part of the five-fold titulary used by Egyptian pharaohs.
The part concerned is called the "nebty name," aka the "twol ladies name."

Rameses II plastered over his father's (Seti I) titulary (which was itself carved into a plaster layer) on that lintel and replaced it with his own.
Damage caused parts of the second layer of plaster (and even some of the first) to fall out, resulting in the "helicopter" image.
Similar jumbled hieroglyphs can be seen all along that lintel.
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/Both pics.JPG]

Harte

Pardon my ignorance, but the 'problem' here is that the left carving is a bas relief? the images are raised, if the 'wings' of the left figure were damaged, it would fall off flat, not appear to be 'extra' raised carvings?

[SurferSoul]

So this is plaster not stone? When the cartouche is overlaid you can see the resulting image as in the photo, but you would expect the layer of the new to stand proud of the old. It doesn’t look like that from the photos. On the other hand if it was carved into the older cartouche the image would be how it now appears, but that would be silly. If you are going to have your signature over an older one you should erase the older one first. 

Anyway whatever, it’s funny how it ended up looking like a helicopter and two UFO’s.

[Harte]

Pardon my ignorance, but the 'problem' here is that the left carving is a bas relief? the images are raised, if the 'wings' of the left figure were damaged, it would fall off flat, not appear to be 'extra' raised carvings?

Every carving is not made the same way.
The "helicopter" is "carved" into plaster. If you need to see it, here it is. You can see where the original plaster has fallen off the stone of the lintel here:

Further down the lintel to the right, you can see more jumbled glyphs that no one ever talks about because they don't mix to make a "helicopter."


Harte

[Byrd]

Seen them myself in tombs in Egypt. 

The red granite under the Shynx was more interesting that day..

...red granite under the Sphinx?  There isn't any red granite under it.  The only granite at the Sphinx is a replica of the original stele by Thutmose.

[Hanslune]

The glyphs are part of the five-fold titulary used by Egyptian pharaohs.
The part concerned is called the "nebty name," aka the "twol ladies name."

Rameses II plastered over his father's (Seti I) titulary (which was itself carved into a plaster layer) on that lintel and replaced it with his own.
Damage caused parts of the second layer of plaster (and even some of the first) to fall out, resulting in the "helicopter" image.
Similar jumbled hieroglyphs can be seen all along that lintel.
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/Both pics.JPG]

Harte

[Hanslune]

Seti I
Nebty name: Wehemmesut Sekhemkhepesh Derpedjetpesdjet
"He who renews the births, strong with a sword, who subjugates the nine bows."

Ramesses II
Nebty name: Mekkemet Wafkhasut
"Protector of Egypt, who curbs foreign lands."

[Harte]

Hans has clearly mistranslated Seti's name.
"Hands off my daughter or else I can clearly see a baby bump nine months in your future."


Harte

[sahgwa]

Every carving is not made the same way.
The "helicopter" is "carved" into plaster. If you need to see it, here it is. You can see where the original plaster has fallen off the stone of the lintel here:
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...Abydos.jpg]
Further down the lintel to the right, you can see more jumbled glyphs that no one ever talks about because they don't mix to make a "helicopter."
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...mpsest.png]

Harte

do we know what it said before it was ruined?
so someone took a chisel or something and just hammered at it?

[andy06shake]

Learn more about quartz, you rember making crystal radios as kids, and that tacky Seiko watch you wear...

I know that quartz is widely used in electronics due to its piezoelectric properties.

Meaning it can generate charge when mechanically stressed and/or vibrate when subjected to voltage.

You learn that in 1st year of physics. 

As to watches, i don't wear those, tacky or expensive, sorry.

You're not very good at this profiling sh@t. ;)

But do tell me about quartz in relation to ancient Egyptian technology?