Plane collides with Blackhawk helicopter Washington DC

[quintessentone]

No she wasn’t. She was a fully qualified UH-60 pilot. They’re required to do annual certification flights, which is what this was. Even if she was being trained, they still confer exactly like a regular crew. You don’t have a pilot flying that doesn’t have all the information they need, like where the hell oncoming traffic that could pose a problem is located at.

Maybe, maybe not, we will see from the investigative findings.

[Zaphod58]

Maybe, maybe not, we will see from the investigative findings.

She had been an aviation officer since 2019. It doesn’t take six years to qualify.

[quintessentone]

She had been an aviation officer since 2019. It doesn’t take six years to qualify.

Why don't you research why that was, then let us know? Instead of stoking the seeds of blame on one individual.

[Zaphod58]

Why don't you research why that was, then let us know? Instead of stoking the seeds of blame on one individual.

I’m not stoking the seeds of blame on anyone. I’m correcting misconceptions. Mid air collisions are not the result of any one person, contrary to popular belief. And I know all about her other work. But that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t flying as well.

[quintessentone]

I’m not stoking the seeds of blame on anyone. I’m correcting misconceptions. Mid air collisions are not the result of any one person, contrary to popular belief. And I know all about her other work. But that doesn’t mean that she wasn’t flying as well.

Your focus on this one person is suspect, to me.

[Zaphod58]

Your focus on this one person is suspect, to me.

YOU are the one claiming I’m focusing on one person, which means you’re completely missing my point. Not that I’m surprised.

[quintessentone]

YOU are the one claiming I’m focusing on one person, which means you’re completely missing my point. Not that I’m surprised.

All I see is you jumping from one inference to another. First she is fully qualified then you bring up the the question as to why it took so long for her to become certified. Then you state that pilots confer with one another yet you are focusing on the person flying the plane. If all three were conferring information among themselves, why focus on the one person flying the helicopter?

I find this exchange distasteful and I won't be replying to you again about this subject matter. I think we should all wait for the final investigative results at this point.

[Zaphod58]

All I see is you jumping from one inference to another. First she is fully qualified then you bring up the the question as to why it took so long for her to become certified. Then you state that pilots confer with one another yet you are focusing on the person flying the plane. If all three were conferring information among themselves, why focus on the one person flying the helicopter?

I find this exchange distasteful and I won't be replying to you again about this subject matter. I think we should all wait for the final investigative results at this point.

Check your damn reading comprehension. I never brought up the question of how long her certification took. YOU said she was a trainee. *I* said she was fully qualified, and that she has been an aviation officer since 2019, and that it doesn’t take six years to certify a pilot. YOU are the one that can’t understand what I’m saying and are deciding what I’m saying, and are completely wrong on every level.

Now if you can stop posting things you don’t understand and acting like you do, that would be great.

I haven’t inferred anything. I haven’t blamed anyone. And I haven’t implied anything except in your mind. So you need to check your comprehension before you start telling me what I’m saying.

[MonkMode]

Based on radio calls, she was not the one making the decisions or saying that she sighted the plane.

I haven’t heard the voice on the UHF frequency, who said, visual confirmed, requesting visual separation.

Should be able to tell who it was of the 3 crew. Do you know?

In any case, there is no excuse IMO to not know where the Woodrow bridge is for any helicopter operator flying there.

[Zaphod58]

I haven’t heard the voice on the UHF frequency, who said, visual confirmed, requesting visual separation.

Should be able to tell who it was of the 3 crew. Do you know?

In any case, there is no excuse IMO to not know where the Woodrow bridge is for any helicopter operator flying there.

YOU are the only one saying they didn’t know where the bridge was. They knew exactly where it was. Misidentifying traffic isn’t even close to the same as not knowing where the bridge is.

The voice on the radio was the instructor. He was the Pilot Monitoring, so he was doing all the radio work.