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(01-09-2026, 04:51 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: In your fetid dreams. Over here, police have been held to account for similar.
For defending themselves against a person weaponizing their POV?
shrugs.
Quote:Mr Baker, from Tottenham, north London, was shot at close range by counter-terrorism specialist firearms officer W80, who thought he was reaching for a gun.
Mr Baker, a father-of-two, was sitting in the front passenger seat of a stolen car in which an imitation firearm was later found.
Panel chairman Chris McKay said the full reasons for that finding would follow within the next five working days.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025...CqeiikvpAA
Seems law enforcement in UK shoots unarmed people too.
If Good decided not to block ICE vehicles with her car, and didn’t accelerate with intent and malice striking an agent weaponizing her car, she be alive.
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(01-09-2026, 04:50 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Good and her wife seemed quite happy to go from legal observers to agitators and blocking ICE vehicles. Can someone really be considered a 'legal observer' when
they are breaking the law the whole time they are supposedly
just observing? I think not.
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(01-09-2026, 04:59 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Was she not going in the wrong direction to "weaponise her vehicle?"
Again. She was willfully impeding ICE.
She didn’t comply with the agents.
She was blocking the ICE vehicles, she only had to continue to back up to get out of the way.
The agents on foot had her car surrounded with an agent in front of the car. Why accelerate forward unless she didn’t care who she took out to get out of there.
So. It doesn’t help her case.
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(01-09-2026, 05:06 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Can someone really be considered a 'legal observer' when
they are breaking the law the whole time they are supposedly
just observing? I think not.
And yet to taint the narrative, that’s what Dems are calling it. Don’t dems go on about code speak or some crap?
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(01-09-2026, 05:04 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Seems law enforcement in UK shoots unarmed people too.
There was the case of Colin Farmer, a blind man who was Tasered by a police officer in Chorley, Lancashire back in 2012.
After the moronic clown of a Police claimed his white cane was a samurai sword.
But it's hardly a competition.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(01-09-2026, 05:12 PM)andy06shake Wrote: There was the case of Colin Farmer, a blind man who was Tasered by a police officer in Chorley, Lancashire back in 2012.
After the moronic clown of a Police claimed his white cane was a samurai sword.
But it's hardly a competition.
I literally quoted a UK case you ignored. Why.
Where an UK officer shot an unarmed man.
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(01-09-2026, 04:04 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: I guess her six year old child attends a local school. I can’t find the Fox article. But it claimed Good and her partner supposedly move around a lot?
Thought this was interesting?
Good and her partner became something more than legal observers when Good parked the SUV to impede ICE vehicles, and Good’s wife was confrontational.
Sad the media and state officials gloss over the situation by labeling agitators “legal observers”.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/renee-good-wi...i-ice-fury
Quote:Former neighbors told local media outlets that the couple relocated multiple times over the past year, including a reported move to Canada following the 2024 presidential election, before later settling in Minneapolis.
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(01-09-2026, 05:01 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Either, thank you!
One or the other?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(01-09-2026, 05:10 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Again. She was willfully impeding ICE.
She didn’t comply with the agents.
She was blocking the ICE vehicle, she only had to continue to back up to get out of the way.
The agents on foot had her car surrounded with an agent in front of the car. Why accelerate forward unless she didn’t care who she took out to get out of there.
So. It doesn’t help her case.
I think that will be for your courts to decide.
But again, if the woman was driving away, and merely trying to leave, which is how it appears, then firing at her does not meet your Police policy standards.
A vehicle only qualifies as deadly force if it's being used in a way that clearly threatens death or serious injury and there's no reasonable alternative.
Then there are the witness statements to consider.
The alternative was not to approach the vehicle or simply step aside...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(01-09-2026, 05:10 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Again. She was willfully impeding ICE.
She didn’t comply with the agents.
She was blocking the ICE vehicles, she only had to continue to back up to get out of the way.
The agents on foot had her car surrounded with an agent in front of the car. Why accelerate forward unless she didn’t care who she took out to get out of there.
So. It doesn’t help her case.
"Accelerate"?
More like move forward slowly.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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