NATO approves use of deep strike weapons against Russia

[Oldcarpy2]

Just pointing out some glaring flaws in your opinion on the topic. I guess you can call it whatever you want...you could probably do with a mirror more than anyone else here though...feel free to borrow mine.

Any evidence for those unhappy Ukrainians?

How come they voted by a landslide for Zelensky in 2019, with 73% to Poroshenkos 24%?

[RickyD]

Any evidence for those unhappy Ukrainians?

How come they voted by a landslide for Zelensky in 2019, with 73% to Poroshenkos 24%?

You mean after the violent coup when the nationalist went into east Ukraine and started attacking and killing anyone not going with their plans? Their country was never united, one side wanted western ties the other eastern...but you know that, you just choose to ignore it.

[matafuchyou]

Then why not have new elections in Ukraine?

[Oldcarpy2]

Then why not have new elections in Ukraine?

Because they are at War and don't want another Russian puppet?

[matafuchyou]

So, it is ok to suspend elections during war time and, if there are so many who do not want Russia, how would a Ukrainian not be elected if you feel them so popular? 

See how that does not add up. 

This is not a game. Ukraine is supposed to be the new Afghanistan to the MIC and they need to back off.

[Oldcarpy2]

So, it is ok to suspend elections during war time and, if there are so many who do not want Russia, how would a Ukrainian not be elected if you feel them so popular? 

See how that does not add up. 

This is not a game. Ukraine is supposed to be the new Afghanistan to the MIC and they need to back off.

How about having some free and fair and not totally farcical elections in Russia?

[RickyD]

How about having some free and fair and not totally farcical elections in Russia?

They seem better at coups and sucking up foreign funding than they are at democracy...

[matafuchyou]

How about having some free and fair and not totally farcical elections in Russia?

Russia did not just try to obliterate an air force. There is no win here. The US is not going to and should not finance an aggressor. Nope.

[putnam6]

In response to an attack by the Russians the night prior. The Ukrainians managed to shoot most of the Russian drones down too. Shame the Russians couldn't manage the same.

It was a heluva an accomplishment, but did it change the war's trajectory? That's the argument. 

I don't think it changed anything except perhaps prolonging the inevitable.

[Mantiss2021]

You might not have chosen the best meme to illustrate your point, there.

Despite referring to himself as "inevitable", and, at least initially "winning", Thanos was ultimately defeated (although at great cost and personal sacrifice) by his opposition, if you recall..

Has the destruction of a significant portion of Russians strategic air force turned the tide (reversing the "snap" if you will) to Ukraine's favor? Uncertain at this time.

But,  I would suggest that US recent actions and attitudes toward both Ukraine and the EU are perhaps inadvertently forging new, and stronger bonds between Ukraine and the EU.

Bonds from which the US might find itself excluded.


Consider a future wherein Russia, weakened by a war of attrition, now being waged within its own previously sacred borders, continues to degrade its military and political infrastructure, finally succumbs to Ukraine, backed by the EU, exigent of US-controlled NATO strictures.

Consider the wealth of a now deflated Russia, at the mercy of an EU/Ukraine hegonomy.