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(09-24-2025, 05:25 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Who are they going to get to direct this one?
They screwed the pooch with Kubrick...
He did a great job! People believed it for years.
I am curious when the moon landings became fake for people here? For me it was the late 2000s. I am from an alternate Mandela reality where they were real originally.
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(09-24-2025, 05:38 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Don't worry. Congress will most likely kill it again after it gets going good.
There was almost enough hardware for another 4 Apollo missions after 17. Apollo 18 was ready to be assembled. Congress got board going to the moon so they stopped funding for that.
Where do you think the hardware for the Skylab missions and Apollo Soyuz mission came from? They used the leftovers from the planned moon missions that never were funded.
We would most likely have had people on Mars in the 1990s if it weren't for Congress having no vision of exploration.
I believe that could of been a possibility, lets just hope that this time they decide to stay a bit longer, once Elon actually builds a working lunar lander...
Quote:SpaceX’s Starship Lunar Lander Could Be ‘Years Late,’ NASA Safety Panel Warns.
In 2021, NASA contracted Elon Musk’s SpaceX to build a version of Starship capable of landing astronauts on the Moon. At that time, the agency aimed to accomplish a landing by 2024, but that target date has been pushed back in recent years.
Development of Starship HLS has slowed significantly as SpaceX has struggled with repeated explosive failures this year. While Starship’s most recent test flight on August 26 was a success, unmet technical milestones have piled up.
One major issue is demonstrating the cryogenic propellant transfer needed to refuel Starship in low-Earth orbit before the rocket heads to the Moon, Hill said during the Friday meeting. Developmental delays for Starship 3—the first iteration capable of in-orbit fuel transfers—have slowed progress toward this goal.
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
Charles Tremper
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(09-25-2025, 04:27 AM)Kurokage Wrote: I believe that could of been a possibility, lets just hope that this time they decide to stay a bit longer, once Elon actually builds a working lunar lander...
I used to wonder what was up with that guy.
What kind of game he was playing.
But after his company address at Twitter, I think he actually believes all that to-the-stars transhuman stuff! He actually thinks he's going to Mars!
What a drug-addled tool.
Don't do drugs kids.
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(09-25-2025, 07:40 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: He actually thinks he's going to Mars!
Already a few robots on Mars. With the way Elon is going, as long as civil war, AI going red eye, or some other global disruption does not crash civilization, he has a good chance in getting a lot more there. Still 10-20 years away for a manned flight.
When you have an army of robots, got some options in what you can build and where you can go.
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(09-24-2025, 05:23 AM)Kurokage Wrote: https://www.dagens.com/technology/nasa-p...early-2026
Isn't this exciting!!
Finally NASA are moving forward with it's Artemis missions, in an amazing return to lunar voyages since the 70s. The first flight will only orbit the moon and return, but I can't help but feel excited, and full of hope for mankind.
We're finally back to be a scientific and space fairing people.
I watched the first moon landing, so for me it's a rerun. Considering they have the advanced tech now to make a successful moon landing, why not do it now?
"The only journey is the one within."
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(09-25-2025, 07:40 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: I used to wonder what was up with that guy.
What kind of game he was playing.
But after his company address at Twitter, I think he actually believes all that to-the-stars transhuman stuff! He actually thinks he's going to Mars!
What a drug-addled tool.
Don't do drugs kids.
I have always been unimpressed with the PR/Publicist crap-fest surrounding Mr. Musk....
Then I calmed down and realized that he is a new age techno-activist....
And activists are (as we can see) always one step beyond "the world" in their own minds.
Also, he appears to be a worshiper of appearances... like the rest of the world the media peddles... (Or perhaps that's just an "appearance.")
Lot's of exceedingly successful people appear to believe some very peculiar, and sometimes disturbing things.
For me, it mostly rings out to a predatory speech pattern...
it seems altered.
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(09-24-2025, 05:25 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Who are they going to get to direct this one?
They screwed the pooch with Kubrick...
I vote for Quentin Tarantino this time around. The cinematography may not be as good but you know the dialog will be great.
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(09-25-2025, 08:44 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Already a few robots on Mars. With the way Elon is going, as long as civil war, AI going red eye, or some other global disruption does not crash civilization, he has a good chance in getting a lot more there. Still 10-20 years away for a manned flight.
When you have an army of robots, got some options in what you can build and where you can go.
Sure, they have robots on "Mars".
And a Tesla car in orbit!
People will believe anything.
Didn't they prove that the "red sky" was all fake color-shifting years ago?
And now it has water and now it doesn't!
But keep on be-lie-ving...
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(09-24-2025, 05:38 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Don't worry. Congress will most likely kill it again after it gets going good.
There was almost enough hardware for another 4 Apollo missions after 17. Apollo 18 was ready to be assembled. Congress got board going to the moon so they stopped funding for that.
Where do you think the hardware for the Skylab missions and Apollo Soyuz mission came from? They used the leftovers from the planned moon missions that never were funded.
We would most likely have had people on Mars in the 1990s if it weren't for Congress having no vision of exploration.
The ET's have us quarantined.
The question is what is the border, or has it shifted?
Some say Mars,
Some say the Moon
Some say Saturn
Some say the edge of the Solar system. hmmmm
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(09-25-2025, 09:42 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Sure, they have robots on "Mars". 
Where is Perseverance?
There are others, most have stopped working, few still going, some did not survive the landing, other are in orbit.
With how Elon is going with Starlink, once he gets one robot on Mars, won't take long to be thousands.
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