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I found this article interesting... not sure if anyone's interested in that 'old news' Moon of ours.
The Moon’s south pole hides a 4-billion-year-old secret
Long ago... in this very solar system a glancing blow struck our Moon so hard, that it literally dug down to the magma, then, it appears that the magma spilled out over the surface.... thusly:
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Quote:The South Pole-Aitken impact basin on the far side of the Moon formed in a southward impact (toward the bottom in the image). The basin has a radioactive “KREEP-rich” ejecta blanket on one side of the basin (bright red), containing material excavated from the lunar magma ocean. Artemis astronauts will land within this material at the south end of the basin (bottom in image)
That's where Arteimis is said to be going... the red zone.
The acronym KREEP... by the way
Quote:KREEP, an acronym built from the letters K (the atomic symbol for potassium), REE (rare-earth elements) and P (for phosphorus), is a geochemical component of some lunar impact breccia and basaltic rocks.
Maybe they'll find gold in them thar hills....
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It is a Tuesday, so today I'm of the opinion that everything that enters the Van Allen belt is dematerialized by the aliens and replaced with a simulation projecting signals and light back to Earth. The moon is merely a luminous object within that simulation, and humans have never been there of course, which is why the Freemasons who pretended they went there and played golf are lying. That said, the exact composition of what the aliens are simulating is of interest; there is significance to what they choose to put in there, hidden meaning. Who can say? The KREEP acronym is no doubt a human invention, although perhaps the idea was planted in a human mind by their space lasers.
Tomorrow, I believe, is the day when I believe that the Moon is a million-year old artificial satellite, a space vehicle or something of unknown origin and purpose, covered with a several kilometer layer of rock and dust as camouflage. So I may have some more interesting theories then.
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(10-14-2025, 08:12 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It is a Tuesday, so today I'm of the opinion that everything that enters the Van Allen belt is dematerialized by the aliens and replaced with a simulation projecting signals and light back to Earth. The moon is merely a luminous object within that simulation, and humans have never been there of course, which is why the Freemasons who pretended they went there and played golf are lying. That said, the exact composition of what the aliens are simulating is of interest; there is significance to what they choose to put in there, hidden meaning. Who can say? The KREEP acronym is no doubt a human invention, although perhaps the idea was planted in a human mind by their space lasers.
Tomorrow, I believe, is the day when I believe that the Moon is a million-year old artificial satellite, a space vehicle or something of unknown origin and purpose, covered with a several kilometer layer of rock and dust as camouflage. So I may have some more interesting theories then.
Nonsense. It's cheese!
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Oooh... so it's media is it?...
My new favorite moon toon.... maybe a future myth too...
(Someone make a themed video thread, so we can collect these....)
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(10-14-2025, 08:12 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Tomorrow, I believe, is the day when I believe that the Moon is a million-year old artificial satellite, a space vehicle or something of unknown origin and purpose, covered with a several kilometer layer of rock and dust as camouflage. So I may have some more interesting theories then.
I have found an interesting article about this:
Quote:There’s Something Really Strange About the Moon’s Largest Crater, Where NASA Astronauts Are Due to Land
Scientists have found that we may have been wrong about how the Moon’s largest crater, the South Pole-Aitken (SPA) basin, formed roughly 4.3 billion years ago.
As detailed in a new paper published in the journal Nature, the more than 1,200-mile crater appears to have been the result of a glancing, southward blow — and not a head-on asteroid impact, as previously thought.
The findings could help explain why the Moon’s far side is riddled with large craters, while the more explored near side is relatively smooth. And they could also have “important implications for the upcoming human exploration of the lunar south pole” by NASA’s Artemis program, the researchers wrote.
That’s because the space agency’s “missions will be landing on the down-range rim of the basin — the best place to study the largest and oldest impact basin on the Moon, where most of the ejecta, material from deep within the Moon’s interior, should be piled up,” as study lead and University of Arizona planetary scientist Jeffrey Andrews-Hanna explained in a statement. Quote:The team analyzed the shape of the SPA and compared it to other giant impact basins across the solar system. They found that its oblong, teardrop shape was likely the result of a southward blow, gouging through the Moon’s crust and revealing heavier minerals in the process. https://futurism.com/future-society/some...est-crater
Now, obviously most of the "impact" craters on the moon look perfectly circular, which is absurd if they were created by random meteor capture, you would expect the majority of them to be "glancing blows" creating teardrop-shaped craters. Circular craters occur when the kinetic energy of the impacting projectile is directed along a vector normal to the surface of the moon, and are clearly the result of intentional directed bombardment, due to lack of deviation from this trajectory. These are what were created as camouflage to disguise the moon as a natural body.
This particular crater, however, is teardrop-shaped, and very likely is the result of a random meteor impact. It is also showing indications that it may have penetrated below the several-kilometer "disguise" layer of rock material that conceals the alloy shell of the internal artificial superstructure of the moon. Indeed, early moon missions had as one of their secret purposes vibrational induction and measurement experiments designed to map the configuration of this design. Put simply, the moon "rings like a bell", and ringing it helps measure what's really inside, similar to how sonar works. This is also one of the purposes of the recently performed "lunar impact" missions, as those slight impacts really have no chance of penetrating to the alloy-layer below the basalt. But this mission might, thanks to a helpful meteor!
The exact composition of the shroud remains a mystery. Our science is just beginning to develop "super-alloys" composed of rare-earth elements. Further data collection should be invaluable, both for advancing terrestrial material science, and in planning a future mission to, God-willing, potentially penetrate the monstrosity that has been looming over us for millennia.
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(10-15-2025, 09:48 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: [...]
Now, obviously most of the "impact" craters on the moon look perfectly circular, which is absurd if they were created by random meteor capture, you would expect the majority of them to be "glancing blows" creating teardrop-shaped craters. Circular craters occur when the kinetic energy of the impacting projectile is directed along a vector normal to the surface of the moon, and are clearly the result of intentional directed bombardment, due to lack of deviation from this trajectory. These are what were created as camouflage to disguise the moon as a natural body.
This particular crater, however, is teardrop-shaped, and very likely is the result of a random meteor impact. It is also showing indications that it may have penetrated below the several-kilometer "disguise" layer of rock material that conceals the alloy shell of the internal artificial superstructure of the moon. Indeed, early moon missions had as one of their secret purposes vibrational induction and measurement experiments designed to map the configuration of this design. Put simply, the moon "rings like a bell", and ringing it helps measure what's really inside, similar to how sonar works. This is also one of the purposes of the recently performed "lunar impact" missions, as those slight impacts really have no chance of penetrating to the alloy-layer below the basalt. But this mission might, thanks to a helpful meteor!
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I have a relative that believes in that theory of the moon "ringing like a bell". As for myself, I don't know since I haven't gone there. I'd prefer an innocent space cheese rather than a planetary spy station and stuff.
Especially that Majora's Mask moon, it's creepy!
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
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10-15-2025, 01:37 PM
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(10-15-2025, 11:19 AM)IgnorantGod Wrote: I have a relative that believes in that theory of the moon "ringing like a bell". As for myself, I don't know since I haven't gone there. I'd prefer an innocent space cheese rather than a planetary spy station and stuff.
Especially that Majora's Mask moon, it's creepy!
Tomorrow, it shall be cheese. This I vow.
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Only cheese has holes, right?
I wonder if the poor scientist who likened the energetic reverberation and echoes of a lunar impact bouncing within the Moon's core as "a ringing bell" has blamed himself, or only others, for how the "media" ran with it.
Ii must be Swiss cheese it probably will be... although there are other holey cheeses.
Shall we go to the " Cheese Shop" together?
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(10-15-2025, 01:52 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Only cheese has holes, right?
I wonder if the poor scientist who likened the energetic reverberation and echoes of a lunar impact bouncing within the Moon's core as "a ringing bell" has blamed himself, or only others, for how the "media" ran with it.
Ii must be Swiss cheese it probably will be... although there are other holey cheeses.
Shall we go to the "Cheese Shop" together? 
He probably blamed covid, isn't that how it works?
As for moon's cheese, might be swiss, or shot at several time. But, who would do that to a poor and innocent cheese anyway?
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
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10-16-2025, 09:13 PM
This post was last modified: 10-16-2025, 10:14 PM by UltraBudgie. 
Well, much consideration about the moon and it's cheesy nature today.
Look at the thing. It does kind of look like cheese, doesn't it? But I think the truth is deeper. What is cheese, other than mere curd? To understand, consider: what is the moon? Sure, the lunar satellite. But it is also mystery; the feminine; the counterpoint of the sun, it's nighttime reflector, an omen, bane of the wolf, backdrop of silhouetted howls. The symbolic level is not difficult to access, and whatever the moon is, it is also a strong and individuated entity on such level of meaning.
Then, to understand the levels on which the moon may be cheese, we must also understand cheese with such depth, and focus. It's been an interesting day. Meditation: why do we say certain things are "cheesy"? What is it that evokes in us? Are we referring to the tang, the texture, the give of the curd? Where is the metaphor? A mystery. Perhaps less: the phrase, smile and say "cheese". Ah, a false front presented to the observer, a grin for the recording, not real, evoked and posed. Do we do this for the moon, the soul-trap, the cracker to mankind's cheese, nay the cheese itself that forms the curdled remnant of the milk of carefree youth? She is eternal young, yet old, her milk fermented and cheesy, the time-frozen harvest moon.
The moon is a cheese, then, in joke, in appearance, but in reality? Well, is there anything organic there? It does not appear so. But, deep in the layers of history, what awaits to be discovered? A mission, then, to go see. Let the cracker of our curiosity scrape the creamy loam of knowledge from the crater wall.
Why might we want her cheesy, our Luna? Consider, cheese is uniquely human. It does not occur in nature, but it is a natural product. Loved, unreasonably, by many. But all? Consider what an extra-terrestrial might think about our wonder-food, cheese. An amusing excerpt from a fun sci-fi romp, The Galaxy, and the Ground Within by Becky Chambers. A conversation had by some friendly aliens, when they think the humans aren't listening:
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Roveg couldn’t suss out the sliver of tension that had entered the gathering, but he didn’t like it. Moreover, the way this round robin was going, the next question was going to focus on where he was headed, and that, he didn’t want. He swooped in, reaching for lighter fare. ‘You know, on the subject of Humans, there’s something I’ve long wanted to ask someone about.’ He paused in thought. ‘Cheese. Is that a real thing?’
Pei erupted in laughter. ‘Ugh,’ she said. ‘Stars. Yeah, cheese is real, unfortunately.’
Roveg was both delighted and horrified by her answer. ‘Not really?’ he said.
This was finally enough to coax Tupo out from under the table. ‘What’s cheese?’
Speaker cocked her head. ‘I second the question.’
‘Oh, please don’t make me explain this,’ Pei groaned.
The Akarak leaned back in her cockpit. ‘Well, now you have to,’ she said.
‘Mom, what’s cheese?’ Tupo whispered loudly.
‘I don’t know,’ Ouloo said back. ‘If you listen, you’ll find out.’
Pei set down her plate and exhaled apologetically. ‘Cheese,’ she said in a clinical manner, ‘is a foodstuff made out of milk.’
Ouloo blinked. ‘You mean like …’ She gestured at her own underbelly, where her mammary glands presumably lay beneath thick fur.
‘Yep,’ Pei said. ‘Exactly that.’
‘So, a children’s food,’ Speaker said, her tone suggesting that this struck her as no stranger than the concept of milk itself.
Roveg laughed. ‘Go on,’ he said to Pei goadingly. He continued to snack, enjoying the show.
Pei winced. ‘No,’ she said to Speaker. ‘It’s not for kids. I mean, kids eat it, too, but … so do adults.’
Everyone present – with the exception of Pei – let out a reflexive sound. There were low growls from Ouloo and Tupo, a short trill from Speaker. Roveg, for his part, let out a triple-clicked hiss. A brief cacophony of varied species all communicating the exact same thing: complete and utter disgust.
‘No,’ Ouloo said.
Tupo cooed in fascinated horror.
‘Wait, so, how …’ Speaker made a hesitant face. ‘I’m going to regret this question. How is it … prepared?’
Pei grimaced. ‘They take the milk, they add some ingredients – don’t ask me, I have no idea what – and then pour the mess into a … a thing. I don’t know. A container. And then …’ She shut her eyes. ‘They leave it out until bacteria colonise it to the point of solidifying.’
The cacophony returned.
‘I knew I’d regret it,’ Speaker said.
Roveg laughed and laughed. ‘I’m so glad I asked about this,’ he said.
‘Mom, can we order some?’ Tupo said.
‘Absolutely not,’ Ouloo said.
‘They don’t all eat this, do they?’ Speaker asked.
‘I don’t know,’ Pei said. ‘I know they don’t make it in the Fleet, and a lot of people there can’t eat it without getting sick.’
‘Understandably.’
‘No, it’s not that. Humans need a … oh, what is it … it’s something with their stomachs. An enzyme, I think. For digesting milk. Only some Humans produce it naturally. But here’s the thing: they’re all so fucking bonkers for cheese that they’ll ingest a dose of the enzymes beforehand so that they can eat it.’
‘That seems a bit extreme,’ Roveg said.
‘Have you eaten it?’ Tupo asked.
‘Not if my life depended on it,’ Pei said.
‘How is it that their milk makes them sick?’ Speaker said. ‘That’s got to pose a problem if they can’t feed their young.’
‘Oh, no, I – stars, I forgot the worst part.’ Pei rubbed her neck with her palm. ‘They don’t make cheese with their own milk. They take it from other animals.’
At that, chaos broke out.
‘I didn’t know that part,’ Roveg said, his forelegs shivering. ‘That’s … oh, that’s vile.’ And it truly was, but this fact did nothing to derail his glee.
An understandable reaction. In this vast universe, what defence do we really have against aliens? Our technology? Ha! Likely laughable. No, what would really keep them away is disgust. So, what sentinel could we put in orbit, that would simultaneously warn them of the horrors they might encounter should they choose to dip in to our terrestrial fondue, yet also would serve as a symbol of humanity, to humanity, at our most deliciously... cheesy? Yes, a giant ball of Swiss.
Could it every have been real cheese, rather than mere appearance? Well, we don't know what technology ancient humans may have had. Perhaps, perhaps. There's only one way to find out. Fortunately, humanity's delicious taste for exploration will lead us.
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