Multiple Russian Tu-95 bombers burning a massive Ukrainian FPV drone strike

[Oldcarpy2]

I have not once ever claimed to have ever "inspected civilian aircraft" I said I'm an inspector for one of the 4 MIC companies, so you can cease with the lies.

I stand corrected, Mr Angry.....

[putnam6]

Looks as if the dramatic drone damage made the Russian terms even more ridiculous...
Now they will be complete azzholes and punish Ukraine for its insolence.

Russia has torn off a chunk of Ukraine, and it's firmly in its teeth. 

It's not worth it to Uncle Sam to risk WWIII or another 3-4 years of war at the current trajectory to make them spit it out either. 

There's no plan for victory, and in the age of AI that's ridiculous AF.

In the big scheme of NATO vs Russia, it's much more advantageous to let Russia exhaust itself in Ukraine BEFORE we start WWIII in earnest.  




https://x.com/maxseddon/status/1929592492900442469

Tass have published Russia's memorandum, which it refused to hand over to Ukraine until the peace talks in Istanbul today. The demands basically amount to surrender, regime change, and putting Ukraine back in Russia's grip. They are:

1) Ukraine withdraws from four partially occupied regions (Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, Zaporizhzhia) and lets Russia have them. "International recognition" follows.

2) Ukraine pledges never to join any military alliances or coalitions (NATO etc). No foreign boots on the ground or military infrastructure either.

3) Any current or future efforts to this end are rolled back or banned.

4) No nuclear weapons for Ukraine.

5) Caps on Ukraine's military. Far-right units are disbanded.

6) "Full guarantee of rights for Russian speakers." Russian becomes an official language.

7). Ban on "glorification and promoting of Nazism and neo-Nazism." Nationalist parties and groups are disbanded.

8) All western sanctions are lifted. No sanctions can be introduced in future either.

9) "Resolution of issues" with family reunification and displaced persons.

10) Both sides agree not to demand reparations.

11) Ukraine rolls back its restrictions on the Russian Orthodox Church.

12) Full restoration of diplomatic and economic relations, "including gas transit," as well as transport and "other ties, including with third countries."

There are two paths to a ceasefire:

Either: Ukraine withdraws from the four partially occupied regions within 30 days.

Or: the "package option" – Ukraine does a bunch of other things first, including holding elections, and then withdraws from those regions later. All within 30 days.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/RfyY01E0sUQ3apDMKS66V40ZA
 

Ukraine’s likelihood of winning back all lost territories without escalation beyond Ukraine and Russia is low—less than 10% as of June 2, 2025. Partial gains (e.g., parts of Kherson or Zaporizhzhia) are more feasible (20-30% chance), but Russia’s entrenched positions, recent advances, and economic resilience make a full victory improbable without a major shift. Ukraine’s best chance lies in sustained Western support, targeted operations to weaken Russian control, and exploiting economic pressure on Russia—but these are long-term strategies, and political pressures may force a settlement before territorial goals are met. The memorandum’s draconian demands underscore Russia’s confidence, but they also galvanize Ukrainian resistance, making a prolonged stalemate the most likely outcome in this constrained scenario.

[Oldcarpy2]

"There's no plan for victory, and in the age of AI that's ridiculous AF "

There was no plan for victory for Britain in 1940.  But we held off the Luftwaffe.  Would you have wanted surrender and appeasement?

Yes, I know the US entered the fray, but only after Pearl Harbour.

And for which we repaid your lend lease over decades......

[SomeStupidName]

"There's no plan for victory, and in the age of AI that's ridiculous AF "

There was no plan for victory for Britain in 1940.  But we held off the Luftwaffe.  Would you have wanted surrender and appeasement?

Yes, I know the US entered the fray, but only after Pearl Harbour.

And for which we repaid your lend lease over decades......

You also bought cotton from the south to further aid them into and during the civil war so I guess your lucky we showed up when we did.

[RickyD]

"There's no plan for victory, and in the age of AI that's ridiculous AF "

There was no plan for victory for Britain in 1940.  But we held off the Luftwaffe.  Would you have wanted surrender and appeasement?

Yes, I know the US entered the fray, but only after Pearl Harbour.

And for which we repaid your lend lease over decades......

To the last Ukrainian right?

[Oldcarpy2]

"You also bought cotton from the south to further aid them into and during the civil war so I guess your lucky we showed up when we did."

Our apologies for that....mind you, we did end slavery, so there is that.

[Oldcarpy2]

"To the last Ukrainian right?"

No, that was Russia in WW2.

Hlodomor ring any bells?

It does with Ukrainians.

[Inspector44]

Yes, I know the US entered the fray, but only after Pearl Harbour.

Don't lie. The US was involved with WWII from the beginning. You wouldn't have held the Germans off without our aid, that is a fact. Van Braun would have reduced London to a smoldering ruin with his V-2s if we hadn't been marching across Europe putting the launch sites to the fire. We had pilots over there flying Spitfires, we had soldiers over there long before our official entrance and our lend/lease program kept Europe afloat in the war. Nothing irritates me more when some ungrateful foreigner intentionally downplays the US's involvement and acts like they held the Germans off all by themselves. Had the Germans never turned on the soviets, you'd be taking orders from a German chancellor right now and the US would have only been in the Pacific theater.

[CriticalStinker]

Looks as if the dramatic drone damage made the Russian terms even more ridiculous...
Now they will be complete azzholes and punish Ukraine for its insolence.

Russia has torn off a chunk of Ukraine, and it's firmly in its teeth. 

It's not worth it to Uncle Sam to risk WWIII or another 3-4 years of war at the current trajectory to make them spit it out either. 

There's no plan for victory, and in the age of AI that's ridiculous AF.

In the big scheme of NATO vs Russia, it's much more advantageous to let Russia exhaust itself in Ukraine BEFORE we start WWIII in earnest.  




https://x.com/maxseddon/status/1929592492900442469

https://x.com/i/grok/share/RfyY01E0sUQ3apDMKS66V40ZA
 

Ukraine is fighting for survival, and Russia is fighting for its pride.

Both will lose quite a bit in the end. I imagine Ukraine will have to give up a good amount of its land, but Russia has already lost a measurable portion of its Navy, Air Force, and ground forces. Some of what they lost is irreplaceable. And while I see some downplaying the strategic bombers because of their age, that’s still a huge asset if you have stealth fighter/bombers who can soften air defense so bombers can come in to prep for ground forces. 

Russia does have impressive missile tech, but a lot of waging war is doing so smartly. Don’t want to use your most expensive ballistic missiles when a bomber with retrofitted dumb bombs do the job for a fraction of the price. 

Russia won’t look the same for a while after this one, and they’ve had a few opportunities to take the win and move on.

[Oldcarpy2]

Don't lie. The US was involved with WWII from the beginning. You wouldn't have held the Germans off without our aid, that is a fact. Van Braun would have reduced London to a smoldering ruin with his V-2s if we hadn't been marching across Europe putting the launch sites to the fire. We had pilots over there flying Spitfires, we had soldiers over there long before our official entrance and our lend/lease program kept Europe afloat in the war. Nothing irritates me more when some ungrateful foreigner intentionally downplays the US's involvement and acts like they held the Germans off all by themselves. Had the Germans never turned on the soviets, you'd be taking orders from a German chancellor right now and the US would have only been in the Pacific theater.

From the beginning?

Battle of Britain?

"We had pilots over there flying Spitfirres"...

You get your history from the film Pearl Harbour?  U 571?  Oh dear.

Dunkirk?

Hello Mr Angry.

I'm the liar here?


https://www.historyextra.com/period/seco...roosevelt/

Here, learn some history.