(06-20-2025, 11:00 PM)rickymouse Wrote: Iran probably does not have to test their enriched nuclear material, Russia probably gave them all the info to make it without needing to do any testing. They probably even sold them some of the equipment to enrich it, and the rest probably was bought from China, China does buy a lot of oil products from Iran I read. If they have experts there enriching it, and have equiptment to measure it's enrichment and the technological expertise to build the bombs, why would they need to do nuclear testing. Once we developed the technology, little testing is done anymore. North Korea probably did not have as much experienced outside tutoring so they had to do some testing...
What makes you think that all the scenarios you listed are probable?
It puts a lot of faith into the entities who have been telling us for 30 years that they almost have a nuke.
Personally, I don't think the timing now is because they are "about to have one", but rather it's the perfect time to strike. Israel just took out Hamas and Hezbollah, limiting proxy capacity close to home. Syria fell, and Israel took out the air defense there. So they've been able to loiter refueling planes over Syria for their strike campaigns in Iran.
It wasn't long ago that a vast majority of the ATS community realized Iran was always a wet dream for the Neocons. I'd say most were oppose to the thought of the US getting involved.
The only difference now is that Trump seems to like the idea, so a lot of his base is following suit.
Where I think they are miscalculating is that this isn't 2003. We didn't just have 9/11, so the public support is going to be nowhere close to Iraq. And if this turns into just more than a few bombing runs, you can bet that this all gets viewed as a quagmire with the political ramifications to follow.