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Isreal launches strikes on Iran
(06-21-2025, 01:35 PM)imitator Wrote: But... why the sudden panic?

The U.S. government said way back in March 2022 that Iran could produce enough weapons-grade uranium for a bomb in about one week. Then in 2023, General Mark Milley testified the timeline was 10–15 days.

So now... in 2025... Israel suddenly "discovers" this and says we have to strike now?
LOL, what were they doing for the last three years?  Question

Link: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/iran-nuclear-deal/
The U.S. government estimated in March 2022 that Iran would need as little as one week to produce enough weapons-grade uranium for one nuclear weapon, according to a State Department official. During a March 2023 congressional hearing, then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley testified that Iran could produce this amount of enriched uranium “in approximately 10-15 days.”

I think CriticalStinker made a good point about Iran's proxies being in a weakened state.

Now is as good a time as any.

And I think we already knew that our government isn't always accurate.
So, where is the evidence to justify yet another ME war?

Why are we not being told?

Here we go, again....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...

There is a big difference between "making enough gasoline to run a car", and actually building the car which uses the gasoline you've produced.

Having a quantity of enriched uranium sufficient to build a nuclear weapon doesn't, automatically translate into actually having a nuclear weapon.

However, if you have enough gas, and someone either gives you the plans for a car, or gives you an actual, working car...you're off to the races!


My question is, Trump picked Gabbard to head of his DNI. One would assume he therefore trusted her, and her judgment, or at least he did..

So what has changed?

What "intelligence" is Trump now privy to, that his "Director" of National Intelligence" is/was not looped in on, that leads Trump to concluded that he knows she is wrong.

Wrong enough to involve the US in a potentially nuclear debacle?


Who is Trump actually listening to on this, and why should "they" be trusted to have our best interests at heart?
(06-21-2025, 01:03 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Tulsi has changed her views on Iran.

Now she is saying the are just weeks away from having a nuke.

BBC

Good possibility the U.S. "Intel" consensuses had tainted planted disinfo from Biden Administration implanted operatives still in the undetected positions and Tulsi knew it and they played the game out as necessary, but most likely had the real accuracies from Israeli Intel. Always good to keep enemy infiltrators thinking they have an upper hand when they don't.  Biggrin
(06-21-2025, 01:58 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So, where is the evidence to justify yet another ME war?

Why are we not being told?

Here we go, again....

There's no new war imminent. The existing wars are still current  Cool
(06-21-2025, 02:07 PM)xuenchen Wrote: Good possibility the U.S. "Intel" consensuses had tainted planted disinfo from Biden Administration implanted operatives still in the undetected positions and Tulsi knew it and they played the game out as necessary, but most likely had the real accuracies from Israeli Intel. Always good to keep enemy infiltrators thinking they have an upper hand when they don't.  Biggrin

And what was the disinfo they planted to sabotage Trump?

Intel to coax him into a war with Iran, since that is the most damaging thing the admin could do?
(06-21-2025, 02:10 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: And what was the disinfo they planted to sabotage Trump?

Intel to coax him into a war with Iran, since that is the most damaging thing the admin could do?


You're at "Step 1" with 10 more to go.  Eureka
(06-21-2025, 01:55 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: I think CriticalStinker made a good point about Iran's proxies being in a weakened state.

Now is as good a time as any.

And I think we already knew that our government isn't always accurate.

Actually, this lines up with Israeli political timing and U.S. election cycles. When it’s politically convenient, that’s when the threat suddenly gets framed like it just appeared overnight.

I think Trump got played.
(06-21-2025, 02:15 PM)imitator Wrote: Actually, this lines up with Israeli political timing and U.S. election cycles. When it’s politically convenient, that’s when the threat suddenly gets framed like it just appeared overnight.

I think Trump got played.

Don't forget that Bibi still has pending charges he has to reconcile in court, but that won't happen until he's out of office. The longer they're at war, the longer that is delayed.

On Trump's side of short term political gain, this would basically force the passing of the Big Beautiful Bill. They would have to increase the debt ceiling and secure funding if we're involved in such large scale strikes.

Long term though, this will be a blight on his admin, IMO.



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