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(09-15-2025, 02:08 PM)Vermilion Wrote: That’s a cop out.
When Russia went into Ukraine and took Donbas in 2014, Ukraine didn’t do anything.
Where is the proportionality there?
I guess that’s not a war either.
Your comparing apples and oranges, did Iraq do anything when America and the UK went in and bombed the hell out of it? Ukraine was/is well backed up by the west with arms and mercenaries on the ground, more of a proxy war.
But I’m glad you brought that up because America used 9/11 as its excuse to go and do the invasion, Isreal said oct/7th was their “9/11” so maybe they let the attack happen to give them the excuse for utter destruction of Gaza? Not even a cat could get through the border/ iron dome
Undetected so how did Hamas?
If there was a war Israel won it already, but they carry on as if they will find Hamas hiding in the last remaining building.
If they have any shred of humanity left they need to stop now.
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(09-16-2025, 04:17 AM)SurferSoul Wrote: Your comparing apples and oranges, did Iraq do anything when America and the UK went in and bombed the hell out of it? Ukraine was/is well backed up by the west with arms and mercenaries on the ground, more of a proxy war.
But I’m glad you brought that up because America used 9/11 as its excuse to go and do the invasion, Isreal said oct/7th was their “9/11” so maybe they let the attack happen to give them the excuse for utter destruction of Gaza? Not even a cat could get through the border/ iron dome
Undetected so how did Hamas?
If there was a war Israel won it already, but they carry on as if they will find Hamas hiding in the last remaining building.
If they have any shred of humanity left they need to stop now.
There are still dozens of hostages being held in Gaza.
Here are some facts you may not know…
Every kibbutz near the Gaza border has an armory, safe rooms and bomb shelters.
Defensive tactical training is a regular occurrence in those farms.
They are gated, fortified and manned by armed security 24 hours a day.
The rest of Israel comparatively does not take all of those extra security measures.
Care to take a guess why?
Also, you have to remember that the palestinians attacked on a Jewish holiday.
So, saying it’s not a war because of the “proportionality” between the two countries is a cop out.
Desert Storm was a cake walk for the US but it indeed was a war.
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09-16-2025, 08:24 AM
This post was last modified: 09-16-2025, 08:26 AM by UltraBudgie. 
Israel continues with a ground assault into Gaza City today, as the UN issues a new report:
The report:
Legal analysis of the conduct of Israel in Gaza pursuant to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (72 page PDF)
Quote:Foreign Ministry: UN genocide inquiry claims 'debunked,' inquirers 'Hamas proxies'
The Foreign Ministry accused the UN commission of serving as “Hamas proxies” and urged its abolition following its latest Gaza report.
The Foreign Ministry denounced the United Nations Independent International Commission of Inquiry into whether Israel is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday as a "fake report."
Chair of the commission Navi Pillay, as well as commission members Chris Sidoti and Miloon Kothari, are "serving as Hamas proxies, notorious for their openly antisemitic positions," the ministry said.
The commission's report "relies entirely on Hamas falsehoods, laundered and repeated by others," which have been "thoroughly debunked," the ministry added. https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-867603
(09-16-2025, 04:17 AM)SurferSoul Wrote: so maybe they let the attack happen to give them the excuse for utter destruction of Gaza?
There is plenty of evidence indicating that may be the case.
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Israel took Gaza once and gave it back.
Now they are retaking it.
Ho hum.
Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“ Bertrand Russell
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(09-16-2025, 10:34 AM)Harte Wrote: Israel took Gaza once and gave it back.
Now they are retaking it.
Ho hum.
Harte
It's a matter of testicular fortitude. They don't have the balls to take Bethlehem, either. Maybe they have to kill that cow first?
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(09-16-2025, 10:40 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: It's a matter of testicular fortitude. They don't have the balls to take Bethlehem, either. Maybe they have to kill that cow first?
Silly LoL
We all know how this ends.
It’s been written.
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(09-16-2025, 08:00 AM)Vermilion Wrote: There are still dozens of hostages being held in Gaza.
Here are some facts you may not know…
Every kibbutz near the Gaza border has an armory, safe rooms and bomb shelters.
Defensive tactical training is a regular occurrence in those farms.
They are gated, fortified and manned by armed security 24 hours a day.
The rest of Israel comparatively does not take all of those extra security measures.
Care to take a guess why?
Also, you have to remember that the palestinians attacked on a Jewish holiday.
So, saying it’s not a war because of the “proportionality” between the two countries is a cop out.
Desert Storm was a cake walk for the US but it indeed was a war.
I’m saying the proportionality has turned into randomly killing women and children and got far beyond retribution for the attack on oct/7
The Jews have a saying “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” this is more like an eye for an eye, a limb, a tooth, another limb two black eyes and a broken nose. They should at least follow their own ideas. Jesus said turn the other cheek, maybe he was on to something?
But as you said in your very last post this is about Zionism and the fulfilment of achieving the greater Isreal, the building of the new temple and the end times. So that Isreal is blessed by god and all the non Jews go to hell to be punished in eternal damnation.
So yeah I can see why they stood down all those fortifications on the border to let the attack happen to give them justification to go ahead with their greater plan.
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(09-16-2025, 12:53 PM)SurferSoul Wrote: I’m saying the proportionality has turned into randomly killing women and children and got far beyond retribution for the attack on oct/7
The Jews have a saying “an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth” this is more like an eye for an eye, a limb, a tooth, another limb two black eyes and a broken nose. They should at least follow their own ideas. Jesus said turn the other cheek, maybe he was on to something?
But as you said in your very last post this is about Zionism and the fulfilment of achieving the greater Isreal, the building of the new temple and the end times. So that Isreal is blessed by god and all the non Jews go to hell to be punished in eternal damnation.
So yeah I can see why they stood down all those fortifications on the border to let the attack happen to give them justification to go ahead with their greater plan.
Maybe they shouldn’t have picked on the people who could absolutely smash them back into the Stone Age.
Hitler shouldn’t have gone to Russia.
It’s a long sad tale of biting off more than you can chew.
The killings are not random.
The strikes are calculated, targeted and in many cases prewarned.
How soon we forget the hezbollah pager happy fun games.
Calculated.
Targeted.
Years in the making.
Executed flawlessly.
Also, Jews are absolutely eligible for hell if they earn it.
Along with all those Arab terrorists.
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(09-16-2025, 01:13 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Maybe they shouldn’t have picked on the people who could absolutely smash them back into the Stone Age.
Hitler shouldn’t have gone to Russia.
It’s a long sad tale of biting off more than you can chew.
The killings are not random.
The strikes are calculated, targeted and in many cases prewarned.
How soon we forget the hezbollah pager happy fun games.
Calculated.
Targeted.
Years in the making.
Executed flawlessly.
Also, Jews are absolutely eligible for hell if they earn it.
Along with all those Arab terrorists.
You do love your Wars, killing and genociding?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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09-19-2025, 09:49 AM
This post was last modified: 09-19-2025, 09:56 AM by UltraBudgie. 
(09-16-2025, 03:41 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: You do love your Wars, killing and genociding?
It is about developing a better future.
https://x.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1968328894018367833
Quote:“This plan was built by the most professional people there are,” Smotrich said on Wednesday, adding that it’s currently on President Trump’s desk. “We are checking how this becomes a real estate bonanza—I’m not joking—and pays for itself,” he said.
Smotrich said that he was personally involved in the negotiations with the US on dividing up the Palestinian territory. “I’ve begun negotiations with the Americans, and I’m saying this seriously, because we paid a lot of money for this war. We need to work out how we share percentages on the land. The demolition phase, the first stage of urban renewal, we’ve already done. Now we need to build,” he said. https://news.antiwar.com/2025/09/17/smot...-the-land/
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