IOC to ban transgender women from all female Olympic events

[Maxmars]

It is an assault on me.

I have to change my language, change my behavior to accommodate those with the mental aberration.

It has been dictated to me that I have to accept this "condition" as normal.

I have lost my right to freely express because I might get fired, canceled, denied basic necessities.

I have to obey the dictates of a small group of people with a mental condition or else I will be punished.

How is that freedom?

Sounds more authoritarian than anything else.

I agree... activist have made a demand that everyone change to accommodate their feelings... even this is only a different face of the same "comply" mechanics society uses... welcome to the flip side....

It's wrong - it's evil - when applied in amplified form - it's fascist.
but then, they should know... they lived under it themselves.

Authoritarian at least means to impress and maintain an order...
The way of "comply or die" is fascism... even if it's only socially.

These people are "punishing" those who disagree socially.
And expressing "normal" bullying and virtue signaling.

It's not new... trans is "sort of" new... the medical condition has always existed...
the "behavior" fad is as much fated to pass, as the attention you give it is.

[DBCowboy]

I agree... activist have made a demand that everyone change to accommodate their feelings... even this is only a different face of the same "comply" mechanics society uses... welcome to the flip side....

It's wrong - it's evil - when applied in amplified form - it's fascist.
but then, they should know... they lived under it themselves.

Authoritarian at least means to impress and maintain an order...
The way of "comply or die" is fascism... even if it's only socially.

These people are "punishing" those who disagree socially.
And expressing "normal" bullying and virtue signaling.

It's not new... trans is "sort of" new... the medical condition has always existed...
the "behavior" fad is as much fated to pass, as the attention you give it is.

I disagree.

If my mental state dictates that I kill all people who wear purple hats, is ir authoritarian of the state to say that killing people wearing purple hats is wrong?


It's only authoritarian when it imposes on what you want to do.

But what freedom are we denying?

You can be whatever you want to be, but that does NOT obligate us to follow suit.

[AnAlternateOpinion]

Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

In some cases, stupidity can be replaced with simple lack of knowledge which itself can sometimes be attributed to willful ignorance, bias or just being a dick.

In the case of some here, being honest about trans people would be better expressed in FlyersFan's thread Do you hate certain people?

Certain initialed, horse riding hat wearing people who like bunnies have intensely and passionately disliked this topic for years evidenced by their obsessive compulsion to negatively comment whenever it comes up.

[DBCowboy]

Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

In some cases, stupidity can be replaced with simple lack of knowledge which itself can sometimes be attributed to willful ignorance, bias or just being a dick.

In the case of some here, being honest about trans people would be better expressed in FlyersFan's thread Do you hate certain people?

Certain initialed, horse riding hat wearing people who like bunnies have intensely and passionately disliked this topic for years evidenced by their obsessive compulsion to negatively comment whenever it comes up.

At least I'm consistent.

 

[DBCowboy]

Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

In some cases, stupidity can be replaced with simple lack of knowledge which itself can sometimes be attributed to willful ignorance, bias or just being a dick.

In the case of some here, being honest about trans people would be better expressed in FlyersFan's thread Do you hate certain people?

Certain initialed, horse riding hat wearing people who like bunnies have intensely and passionately disliked this topic for years evidenced by their obsessive compulsion to negatively comment whenever it comes up.

Maybe I have a mental condition you must obey.

 

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Oh joy, the repetitive fixation train is back on its single track!  I hope this discussion goes somewhere new this time!

No?  Not there yet?

Okay, I have some kerosene then...

I dont think it's a mental disease. That just feels like how they used to say "gay is a mental disease," only being rehashed on the next frontier of discomfort and rattled programming..

And I am the first to argue gay and trans people are on a like spectrum. And will continue to do so.

Really gay women have a tendency towards tastes and behavior closer to men. They got this, bro.

Really gay guys can be the meanest of mean girls and most emotional of drama queens. Even the voice is naturally higher and more easily shifted.  

You just have to hang around the LGBT community to meet the people that make stereotypes what they are. And about those sterotypes..  What happened to the ones about manly deep voiced bulldykes and girly high-toned flamers? 

Why are transgender social attributes only in play when there is bullying to be had?

Like if you're saying it to be demeaning you can call a gay person a butch, bulldyke, femme-boy, or queen because they have qualities that are closer to the other gender. The point being to say they are more like the opposite gender. So that's okay..

But if that rings true and they actually want to be the gender? TOO FAR! TOO SOON! 

Like it really says: 

"How dare you take away the oxytocin-releasing bully qualities of misgendering people for being gay and acting like the wrong gender! We need that to make fun of them for being gay and acting like the wrong gender!"  

If I had to sum up the history of what prevents the eventual normalization of LGB and now T, it would be described in this song.

[putnam6]

I was just posting about the IOC ban in particular.

I have no idea if it's affecting state high schools and universities.

Let's do the math, it's less than one percent of the people who are actually affected, and FWIW, at the Olympic level it's.02%

Yet here's the LGBTQ+ peanut gallery/squeaky wheel clamouring the oft-repeated but unrelated dogma, again, and at full volume.

 

Overview of Transgender Athletes in Sports

Transgender athletes represent a very small fraction of overall sports participants, both at recreational and elite levels. This is largely because transgender people make up about 0.6% of the U.S. adult population (approximately 1.4 million people) and 1.4% of youth ages 13-17 (around 300,000), and not all engage in sports. Participation rates for transgender youth in sports (12-14%) are lower than for cisgender youth (68%), due to barriers like discrimination and lack of inclusive environments

 
Context and Implications

• Underrepresentation: Trans athletes are far less common in sports than trans people in the general population, often due to stigma (e.g., 78% of spectators view youth sports as unsafe for LGBTQ+ people) and lower participation rates.
  
• Impact on Fairness: Studies (e.g., 2021 Journal of Sports Medicine, 2024 British Journal of Sports Medicine) find no clear evidence of categorical advantages for trans women after hormone therapy, and inclusion hasn't reduced cisgender women's participation or achievements (stable at ~50% for high school girls since 2011).
  
• Policy Landscape: As of 2025, 20+ U.S. states ban trans girls from girls' sports, and a February 2025 executive order restricts federal funding for inclusive policies. However, groups like the IOC emphasize "no presumed advantage" and advocate for evidence-based inclusion.
  
• Data Limitations: Exact counts are hard due to privacy, self-reporting, and varying definitions (e.g., openly out vs. all trans athletes). Estimates come from NCAA testimony, Williams Institute reports, and researchers like Harper.
  

These figures highlight that trans athletes are a tiny minority, and debates often amplify rare cases over broader data.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Oh, I forgot to comment on the transathlete part of it...

That was a diversity and inclusion bridge too far.

Competitive advantage
Higher risk of injury
Unfairness

Cant argue when those arguments are made. Or feel bad that the girl who won the marathon had to divulge they were transgender in case they needed to award another gold medal to the top finishing biological female to be fair to her. 

They know they have an asterisk medal.  Its reinforced in even the wokest of competetive circumstances.

If a high school transathlete runs girl's track and starts turning heads in competition with intermural records, do you honestly think any college track teams are awarding a scholarship to her? Will her records even be acknowledged? 

It is still viewed in a lens like steroids, even to open-minded and accepting. The unfair part is met with no scholarships, records, and second medals being awarded.

I feel bad for the few that want to play team sports, but I can also imagine what a transathlete could do with a 250 foot home run fence and a hanging pitch. But then again, you could also just walk her every time too. 

But suppose some transathlete hit 40 home runs her senior season of HS, is Oklahoma making her the next Joceylon Alo? Or does that asterisk that will always be in play end up as a hard pass from all scouts everywhere?

In all reality a 6' 1" 170 pound girl at first base yeilds little to a man of the same height and weight.  How much faster is the transathlete in 60 feet? How much harder can they hit it? Its more negligible than people realize.

But in more reality, they'll never advance as biological females would. The IOC decision is a reflection of ALL those realities of the limits of what transathletes can accomplish in high level competitive sports.  And the Olympics are the highest of the high.

Even for the wokest of softball fans only a biological female can replace Joceylon Alo, because she was that fucking amazing.

And there's gotta be an intermediary where you can acknowledge that without awarding the unrouchable caste, the scarlet letter, and the mental disease.

[putnam6]

Oh, I forgot to comment on the transathlete part..

That was a diversity and inclusion bridge too far.

Competitive advantage
Higher risk of injury
Unfairness

Cant argue when those arguments are made. Or feel bad that the girl who won the marathon had to divulge they were transgender in case they needed to award another gold medal to the top finishing biological female to be fair to her. 

They know they have an asterisk medal.  Its reinforced in even in the wokest of circumstances.

If a high school transathlete runs women's track and starts turning heads in competition with intermural records, do you honestly think any college track teams are awarding a scholarship to them? Will their records even be acknowledged? 

It is still viewed in a lens like steroids, even to open-minded and accepting. The unfair part is met with no scholarships, records, and second medals being awarded.

I feel bad for the few that want to play team sports, but I can also imagine what a transathlete could do with a 250 foot home run fence and a hanging pitch. But then again, you could also just walk her every time too. 

But suppose some transathlete hit 40 home runs her senior season of HS, is Oklahoma making her the next Joceylon Alo? Or does that asterisk that will always be in play end up as a hard pass from all scouts everywhere?

In all reality a 6' 1" 170 pound girl at first base yeilds little to a man of the same height and weight.  How much faster is the transathlete in 60 feet? How much harder can they hit it? Its more negligible than people realize.

But in more reality, they'll never advance as biological females would. The IOC decision is a reflection of ALL those realities of the limits of what transathletes can accomplish in high level competitive sports.  And the Olympics are the highest of the high.

Even for the wokest of softball fans only a biological female can replace Joceylon Alo, because she was that fucking amazing.

And there's gotta be an intermediary where you can acknowledge that without awarding the unrouchable caste and the scarlet letter.

Talk to me when it's 5%... why is the angst, anxiety and anger of the .9% more important than the thoughts of the 99.1%

It's about percentages and ratios; there is no compromise with the LGBTQ crowd.... over less than 1% 

Wonder what the other 1% of the population demographic in America needs the 99% to placate them 

It's a process. More states allow trans athletes than ever before, 

But for the Olympics, the no doubt larger percentage of opposition just has to suck it up.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

1% is probably about its limit. So probably not getting back to you. 

Being 10% of 10% it fits a self-regulatory homeostasis pattern, like left-handed and ambidextrous..

I think transathletes has a limit of impact placed by biology, if it helps.

No matter what a transperson does there will always be that asterisk placed on their accomplishments. Especially if in a competitive sport that is judged against biological females where limitations of the body are acknowledged. 

There really is no "heralded olympian future" for transathletes, because woke goes right out the window in the name of fairness if you take a biological female's spot for a transathlete with a noted physical advantage. Almost every time. 

There the limitation is imposed. It will always be imposed so long there is a want to see the best female that exists.

I wanted to smack people going after Katie Ladecky unjustly because apparently no one has ever seen a biological female with a very built upper body before. And she's still 20 seconds slower than the guys.

So as much as i am open and embrace transgender diversity and acceptance, when it comes to top competitive sports, I want to see the top biological females own it.

As there is still the Ginger Rogers/Fred Estaire bumpersticker in play when it comes to competitive women's sports.

Like how would I feel if The NWSL added a transathlete on Wave FC?  (go Sirens!) It would somewhat nullify the impact of Alex Morgan and Naomi Girma.  1. It would NEVER happen, 2. It would highlight the limit of my wokeness.

Because I would also view them with that inescapable asterisk..