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Do you hate certain people?
#1
Philosophy/psychology/religious question .... Do you hate certain people and is it okay?

The online dictionary definition of hate - to feel intense passionate dislike for (someone)

What are some signs or symptoms of 'intense passionate dislike' - hate?  (from AI Google Assist)  Constant name calling.   Derision.  Mocking.  Ridicule.   Physical and/or vocal tantrums when dealing or thinking of the person.   Hostility or hate speech.  Expressive physical activities against the person.  Advocating harm against the person.  Disrespect.   Engaging in gossip and spreading conspiracy theory type information against a person without proof of the truth of it.

I should note that having to talk about someone and telling the truth about someone is different than doing something with hate.   Intent and verbiage is important in the distinction.

Do you feel hate towards certain people?  Do you find yourself with passionate dislike for someone ... constantly calling them names and wishing ill will upon them?   Is that a bad thing or just a natural human emotion and you think it's okay?   Do you try to 'hate the sin but love the sinner' or is that not part of your philosophy?   Do you feel the need for revenge upon those who have wronged you?   "Revenge is mine" (allegedly) says God.   Is revenge okay or is it hate?   

Examples - What about when you see the news and the report is about a person who tortured helpless animals ... do you not just hate what they did but hate the person who did it as well?   Is this a natural response and it's okay or are you falling short of the 'love your neighbor' even though he does something evil?   What about something more personal - if a parent, whom you as a child naturally are supposed to trust and receive love from, instead abuses you and beats you?   Is it okay to hate that person and want revenge or is heroic love required in hating what they did and still loving them?   What about the politicians that you disagree with?   What about the people who follow the ideology of the politicians you disagree with.   Do you love them but hate what they do?   Or do you find yourself with 'intense passionate dislike" (hate) towards them?

What is 'love of neighbor'?   What is 'hate the sin but love the sinner'?   
The online dictionary definition of love - an intense feeling of deep affection.   

Do you have intense feelings of deep affection for everyone, including those who have wronged you and those who have done great evil?   In Christianity this is called heroic love.   Or do you find yourself justified in hating these people.   In Christianity this is called active sin and it's on you, not the person you hate.

For me ... I fall way short on this.   I have 'love of neighbor' in that I hope everyone makes it to heaven, and we donate to charity and volunteer, and pray for people.   But when I read about horrific things people do - like the example of people torturing helpless animals -  I find that I not only hate what they do but I hate the person doing them as well.   "Intense passionate dislike" ... that's hate.   It's a natural response that we are supposed to try to get past and turn into love for the sinner.  

Most of us haven't been 'put to the test' ... we haven't had to endure the tortures of truly evil people for years at a time like the hostages in Israel had to endure being held in Gaza.    I know I wouldn't pass the test of loving the people who would torture and abuse me.   

So how about it?   Do you have 'intense passionate dislike" (hate) for people you hear about or that you encounter?   And is it okay and natural and perhaps even healthy to hate the people doing evil ... or do you feel that you are falling short and have to work harder on 'love thy neighbor'?    And I suppose an even longer discussion could be had about what constitutes 'evil' ... and is it a subjective word in this world.
#2
I find it's best simply to treat people as you find them.

Give what you get in this world.

After all, it's nice to be nice.

And what goes around tends to come around.

Hate is no different in that respect.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#3
My daughter and I were discussing 'what is hate' and we both don't really understand what it is. Is it a psychological/personality disorder or is it a choice?

Once I delve into the abnormal psychology/mental illness of certain sad, sick, or evil behaviours of some humans then, for me, it becomes an exploration into understanding.

Why did Jesus think we could so easily 'love our neighbor as we love ourself'? Is it really that easy to flip that switch?
"The only journey is the one within."
#4
(11-16-2025, 06:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Why did Jesus think we could so easily 'love our neighbor as we love ourself'? Is it really that easy to flip that switch?

I think it's framed as ideal in the bible, but not a switch.

In his context, "love your neighbor" means acting for another's good.

The same way you instinctively act for your own.

It's behavioral first, and emotional second.

Basically, he's saying treat other people as you wish to be treated yourself.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#5
The opposite of love, is it hatred? Or indifference?
#6
(11-16-2025, 06:51 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I think it's framed as ideal in the bible, but not a switch.

In his context, "love your neighbor" means acting for another's good.

The same way you instinctively act for your own.

It's behavioral first, and emotional second.

Basically, he's saying treat other people as you wish to be treated yourself.

Considering Jesus taught spirituality first and foremost, I'd say he was trying to speak to our higher spiritual self and not to our base behaviours, nor to our human condition.

Jesus trying to reach people's higher spiritual/divine selves was a hard nut to crack it would appear.
"The only journey is the one within."
#7
Paradox of tolerance into it, you cant just nod and smile to people who dont want you alive.

It doesnt mean we can reject etiquette to those we dont like, let alone act with violence to them. 

And when groups of people with the same hate start to mobilize things only get worse.

We all hate, but most dont act on it, or start a militia.
I was not here.
#8
(11-16-2025, 06:55 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: The opposite of love, is it hatred? Or indifference?

Seems to me.

Hate pulls you toward anger.

Indifference creates distance.

One burns, the other is empty.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#9
(11-16-2025, 06:57 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Considering Jesus taught spirituality first and foremost, I'd say he was trying to speak to our higher spiritual self and not to our base behaviours, nor to our human condition.

Jesus trying to reach people's higher spiritual/divine selves was a hard nut to crack it would appear.

Can you imagine the task in this day of age?

Considering most people live from fear, habit, and social conditioning. 

The fella is apt to require a sledgehammer to crack those nuts.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#10
(11-16-2025, 07:11 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Can you imagine the task in this day of age?

Considering most people live from fear, habit, and social conditioning. 

The fella is apt to require a sledgehammer to crack that nut.

He would be cancelled, don't you think?
"The only journey is the one within."



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