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11-12-2025, 03:30 PM
This post was last modified: 11-12-2025, 03:35 PM by KrustyKrab. 
(11-12-2025, 12:27 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Within the transgendered community are the following:
AI:
"Transgender people's chosen identities
Transgender people's chosen identities encompass a wide range of expressions and experiences. Here are some of the identities within the transgender community:- Transgender: This term is used to describe individuals whose gender identity and/or expression differs from the sex they were assigned at birth.
- Non-Binary: This term describes individuals who do not identify exclusively as a man or a woman. Non-binary people may identify as being both a man and a woman, somewhere in between, or as falling completely outside these categories.
- Agender, Bigender, Genderqueer, Gender-fluid: These terms are used to describe identities that fall outside the traditional male and female categories.
It's important to note that being transgender does not imply any specific sexual orientation, and transgender people may identify as straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc."
The lack of education for some here on this topic just boggles the mind. No, wait, they don't want to know or understand. Speaking of lack of education. You should read this vvvv from MIT, it’s a good crash course on the pitfalls of AI and why it can NOT be trusted. The blaring inaccuracies in your “AI” post should’ve been a huge red flag. You can’t post anything ai as being factual, because it’s not.
You’re obviously not aware that ai fabricates lies and is extremely biased?
https://mitsloanedtech.mit.edu/ai/basics...ed_Content
Generative AI tools also carry the potential for otherwise misleading outputs. AI tools like ChatGPT, Copilot, and Gemini have been found to provide users with fabricated data that appears authentic. These inaccuracies are so common that they’ve earned their own moniker; we refer to them as “hallucinations” (Generative AI Working Group, n.d.). For an example of how AI hallucinations can play out in the real world, consider the legal case of Mata v. Avianca. In this case, a New York attorney representing a client’s injury claim relied on ChatGPT to conduct his legal research. The federal judge overseeing the suit noted that the opinion contained internal citations and quotes that were nonexistent. Not only did the chatbot make them up, it even stipulated they were available in major legal databases (Weiser, 2023).
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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(11-12-2025, 02:50 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The studies are contradictory at this point in time, so the ethical thing to do was to ban transgender women from women's sports. I agree with that move...FOR NOW.
All those female athletes that think they were harmed by losing to a transgender woman have the right now to seek restitution.
As I said at this point in time, without empirical evidence to back up equality and fairness, it's the right thing to do.
Your history here tells me that what you really think is only important to you and 'them' here.
ETA: Another recent study.
"Conclusions
At least 2 years of postpubertal GAHT are necessary to achieve a significant reduction in the effects of male hormones on various physiological parameters. The scientific evidence regarding the impact of GAHT on physical performance is insufficient. Long-term studies are needed, incorporating new biomarkers and morphofunctional parameters, to allow for comparisons of athletic performance across different disciplines between TW and CW."
Transgender women and competitive sports: Considerations from Endocrinology - ScienceDirect
Ummm…..we actually have receipts that say likewise. You know…….real life chit.
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(11-12-2025, 03:30 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Speaking of lack of education. You should read this vvvv from MIT, it’s a good crash course on the pitfalls of AI and why it can NOT be trusted. The blaring inaccuracies in your “AI” post should’ve been a huge red flag. You can’t post anything ai as being factual, because it’s not.
You’re obviously not aware that ai fabricates lies and is extremely biased?
https://mitsloanedtech.mit.edu/ai/basics...ed_Content
Generative AI tools also carry the potential for otherwise misleading outputs. AI tools like ChatGPT, Copilot, and Gemini have been found to provide users with fabricated data that appears authentic. These inaccuracies are so common that they’ve earned their own moniker; we refer to them as “hallucinations” (Generative AI Working Group, n.d.). For an example of how AI hallucinations can play out in the real world, consider the legal case of Mata v. Avianca. In this case, a New York attorney representing a client’s injury claim relied on ChatGPT to conduct his legal research. The federal judge overseeing the suit noted that the opinion contained internal citations and quotes that were nonexistent. Not only did the chatbot make them up, it even stipulated they were available in major legal databases (Weiser, 2023).
That AI offering confirmed what I read previously, when I bothered to educate myself on transgendered people. So FAIL.
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(11-12-2025, 03:41 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Ummm…..we actually have receipts that say likewise. You know…….real life chit.
Real life confirmation bias chit, you mean.
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(11-12-2025, 02:28 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Not being in their shoes you nor I know nothing about what they have to face out there. Those numbers many indeed be true, but we will never really know for sure. The trans haven't spent anymore time at the school of hard knocks than I have.
You are peddling a lie and trying to garner sympathy for a group of people who deserve no more sympathy than anyone else.
The main reason your group of people are drawing so much hate is because, you are being dishonest and deceptive, right along with the rest of the pro trans crowd about anything and everything.
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(11-12-2025, 03:50 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: The trans haven't spent anymore time at the school of hard knocks than I have.
You are peddling a lie and trying to garner sympathy for a group of people who deserve no more sympathy than anyone else.
The main reason your group of people are drawing so much hate is because, you are being dishonest and deceptive, right along with the rest of the pro trans crowd about anything and everything.
The drawing of hate doesn't need any particular reason, just the flavor of the day/week/month/year target.
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(11-12-2025, 12:27 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Within the transgendered community are the following:
AI:
"Transgender people's chosen identities
Transgender people's chosen identities encompass a wide range of expressions and experiences. Here are some of the identities within the transgender community:- Transgender: This term is used to describe individuals whose gender identity and/or expression differs from the sex they were assigned at birth.
- Non-Binary: This term describes individuals who do not identify exclusively as a man or a woman. Non-binary people may identify as being both a man and a woman, somewhere in between, or as falling completely outside these categories.
- Agender, Bigender, Genderqueer, Gender-fluid: These terms are used to describe identities that fall outside the traditional male and female categories.
It's important to note that being transgender does not imply any specific sexual orientation, and transgender people may identify as straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc."
The lack of education for some here on this topic just boggles the mind. No, wait, they don't want to know or understand.
And herein lies the problem with the "transgender community". It's mostly an everything-under-the sun umbrella term of made up word salad bullshit so completely nebulous, vague and inclusive that the word transgender doesn't really mean anything that has abandoned a once distinct medical condition and repackaged it and as a broadly undefined social identity with 196 different genders and penises in the women’s changing room.
Further exposing myself as an asshole, it has been politicized, weaponized and lumps disparate “identities” together as a group that have no business other than for some ill-perceived degree of clout (that 1% of the population is never going to have anyway) for being thought of as a monolithic cohesive group when in reality it is a heavily splintered and divided mash-up of different in-fighting factions holding their noses at one another in order to give the general public the impression of having some power or a unified front.
Having this controversial but behind-the-scenes perspective will get you kicked out of the club faster than a scalded cat. Along with my own observations, here are some of my influences regarding this very un-politically correct train of thought:
Transgender Territory: Do You Use the Word [url=‘Transgender’ Without Thinking? (written in 1994)
Moral Injury and the Total Erasure of the True Transsexual
What Happens When ‘Transgender’ Erases Transsexuals and Then Disappears Itself?
All Against the Transgender Umbrella
A Critique of "Gender Identity"
The Invisible Transsexual
I have claimed multiple times in the past of having issues with trans activism and although it may seem at times that I am an activist or ideologue myself, I am not. I just happen to be well versed in these matters with multiple decades of study and research into the topic. I am confident enough in my knowledge and experiences to consider myself more of an educator that likes to present alternate perspectives for consideration with the intent of fostering a better understanding of a very complicated subject beyond it being brushed off as the “delusional mental illness” that many disrespectfully believe it to be.
Sorry to stray off the sports topic. One thing leads to another, you know? ;)
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11-12-2025, 04:06 PM
This post was last modified: 11-12-2025, 04:07 PM by KrustyKrab. 
(11-12-2025, 03:43 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Real life confirmation bias chit, you mean.
No, like reality. The kind where real people are involved and in the know, not from some whacked out liberal dr/professors “study” saying there’s no difference between the two genders in sports. It’s popycock and fabricated bs at best. But hey, you keep believing everything you read as long as it gives you that confirmation bias you’re after.
As I mentioned earlier I started sports in 1st grade and competed all the way into HS and later I started doing some coaching in both boys baseball and football and girls and boys basketball leagues. There is absolutely no comparing the two, I can see it firsthand and probably better than most as a result of coaching both. It’s not rocket science to see it.
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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Here it comes.....
The "friendly" warning.... a simple reminder...
Speak about the topic not each other.
Calling someone a liar, presumes they "know" they are wrong...
quite the presumption since this is not theater, and you're not on stage.
If you can't avoid calling someone names, and casting aspersions,
it would be better not to post.
This was the friendly warning...
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(11-12-2025, 04:04 PM)AnAlternateOpinion Wrote: And herein lies the problem with the "transgender community". It's mostly an everything-under-the sun umbrella term of made up word salad bullshit so completely nebulous, vague and inclusive that the word transgender doesn't really mean anything that has abandoned a once distinct medical condition and repackaged it and as a broadly undefined social identity with 196 different genders and penises in the women’s changing room.
Further exposing myself as an asshole, it has been politicized, weaponized and lumps disparate “identities” together as a group that have no business other than for some ill-perceived degree of clout (that 1% of the population is never going to have anyway) for being thought of as a monolithic cohesive group when in reality it is a heavily splintered and divided mash-up of different in-fighting factions holding their noses at one another in order to give the general public the impression of having some power or a unified front.
Having this controversial but behind-the-scenes perspective will get you kicked out of the club faster than a scalded cat. Along with my own observations, here are some of my influences regarding this very un-politically correct train of thought:
Transgender Territory: Do You Use the Word [url=‘Transgender’ Without Thinking? (written in 1994)[/url]
Moral Injury and the Total Erasure of the True Transsexual
What Happens When ‘Transgender’ Erases Transsexuals and Then Disappears Itself?
All Against the Transgender Umbrella
A Critique of "Gender Identity"
The Invisible Transsexual
I have claimed multiple times in the past of having issues with trans activism and although it may seem at times that I am an activist or ideologue myself, I am not. I just happen to be well versed in these matters with multiple decades of study and research into the topic. I am confident enough in my knowledge and experiences to consider myself more of an educator that likes to present alternate perspectives for consideration with the intent of fostering a better understanding of a very complicated subject beyond it being brushed off as the “delusional mental illness” that many disrespectfully believe it to be.
Sorry to stray off the sports topic. One thing leads to another, you know? ;)
To me it just shows the gender confusion experienced and lack of research to explain why they are feeling what they are feeling. I'm not in the crowd that thinks you are an asshole because you are trying to understand, as I am, what is really going on here.
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