Feds to take control of 2000 Cali National Guardsmen for anti ICE riots

[putnam6]

Here's a horrible truth.

At the moment, you would appear to have more troops in the city of Los Angeles than you have stationed in Iraq.

I mean, i get that it's a temporary situation, or at least i certainly hope that's the case.

But it does not look good, and amounts to political signalling imho.

NGL America hasn't looked good in a while... it was well past time for just reflection, we are in self-help mode. The signal is we tried it your way, now we're going to try it my way. 

FWIW, you want those bases sparsely manned when Israel hits Iran, those bases will be under Iranian mssile threat

[DBCowboy]

NGL America hasn't looked good in a while... it was well past time for just reflection, we are in self-help mode. The signal is we tried it your way, now we're going to try it my way. 

FWIW, you want those bases sparsely manned when Israel hits Iran, those bases will be under Iranian mssile threat

This TBH

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Cities are in debt, the US is 30 some trillion in debt.  The US is approaching insolvency.  The open border made it worse.  

And Trump's budget increases national debt to EVERYONE but Trump, rich people, and his supporters. Most economists, why would you listen to them? They trashed Reaganomics as what actually destroyed the middle class. 

​​​​​​We know all about rising debt in California. Use to be a supluss before covid, like during Obama and Trump's first term..  when he left us alone..

But Illegals caused our budget problems, you say?

California's recent budget shortfall is primarily driven by a combination of factors, including lower-than-expected state revenue collections, particularly those from capital gains taxes, and a slower-than-anticipated economic recovery. These issues were compounded by factors like the impact of the Federal Reserve's interest rate hikes and a volatile stock market, which negatively impacted income tax collections, especially from high-income earners. 

Also a mass middle and high income exodus during the slowest most inflated part of the recovery.

As far as immigrants go, at least here, Wax on/Wax off. It's almost too perfect. You'd think it was made up.

Source: CalMatters (State funded propaganda)
 

However, it's estimated that the state spends around $8.5 billion annually from the general fund to cover those who lack legal authorization

Twitter says 9.5 billion. 

However, undocumented immigrants contribute significantly to the state's economy through taxes, estimated at $8.5 billion annually. 

 
Some estimates are closer to 9 billion..

I think an economic slowdown, inflation, rising housing costs caused mostly by Covid (China) and Russia happened.

The only way democrat policy hurt California was through high taxes that drove away companies and capital gains collections to Arizona and Texas..

It's just not adding up to "blame illegal immigrants" yet. Maybe China? Or taxes? I think I need more convincing.

[putnam6]

[guyfriday]

Who didn't see this coming?
Federal judge questions constitutionality of Trump sending National Guard to contain LA riots

A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Trump administration to “return control” of thousands of National Guard troops that had deployed to Los Angeles to quell anti-ICE riots to the state of California.
Senior San Francisco US District Judge Charles Breyer issued the order after hearing arguments from attorneys for Trump’s Justice Department and California Gov. Gavin Newsom after the Democrat had sued the feds over dispatching roughly 4,000 Guard members to protect officers carrying out immigration enforcement operations.
“At this early stage of the proceedings, the Court must determine whether the President followed the congressionally mandated procedure for his actions. He did not,” Breyer wrote in his order.
“His actions were illegal—both exceeding the scope of his statutory authority and violating the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. He must therefore return control of the California National Guard to the Governor of the State of California forthwith.”

So after the California government did nothing, and cried about the Feds having to step in to protect Federal property, Newsom took the issue of this to local courts. 

If anyone doesn't get it yet, these so-called Democrats are in fact Trotskyists, and are clearly pushing for a Civil War. This isn't just an LA issue at this point, but the people behind these riots are fully operational in a number of US cities. Now with this move to, once again, remove Executive powers from the office of President, people really can't just turn a blind eye to how deep this infiltration by these Trotskyists have gone. 

Side Note: the notion that the Trotskyists are pushing for a Civil War is just my opinion. Just like how it was my opinion that China was funding these riots through Trotskyist Organizations. So yeah, take heed and be alert people, this mess is not even begun yet.

[Bush Master]

It should be obvious how, when the executive orders come down, govt agencies struggle to reverse the course of events. This alone should concern any objective American.

I mean, we hope for changes in government, but they rarely are responsive in any meaningful way. Now that legal orders have come down, no real American should fight against it. Being a citizen means respecting The Process.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Who didn't see this coming?

...

“His actions were illegal—both exceeding the scope of his statutory authority and violating the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. He must therefore return control of the California National Guard to the Governor of the State of California forthwith.”

It's as foreseeable as the crying foul from those who disagree with this ruling. Seems to me like a another judge interpreting the constitution again..

But Trump says those judges are nepotistic judges doing it out of corruption, right? Getting in the way of a greatness only 47% of America wants. (At latest) 

If anyone doesn't get it yet, these so-called Democrats are in fact Trotskyists, and are clearly pushing for a Civil War.

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local...97aa49cf39

A ballot proposition is in the final stages of signature gathering and the campaign's leader, Marcus Ruiz Evans, says the last few days have been the busiest period with the most calls and texts he's received from people signing on to the campaign.

"People are signing onto CalExit with deep resignation. It’s, 'we have to do this, I’m not happy, I’m not enthusiastic,'" said Ruiz Evans.

He says the significant moment when calls really started coming in was when Trump announced he was sending in Marines to Los Angeles. 

He overstates The momentum.

 I think for now all us California Trotsky-Marxist-commies are going to try to block the Fascists through the courts first.

Like this statement suggests:

“I think a proposal like this becomes more mainstream and takes on more legs the more that Californians feel disenfranchised or otherwise at odds with what is going on at the federal level,” Micheli said.

Micheli points out that instead of focusing on how to leave the United States, time and effort would be better spent challenging the federal government in court, much like the state did in Trump’s first term and continues to do now.

And democrats always appeal to authority (judicial) to fight for us before we fight ourselves. Plus we don't really believe in guns too deeply in liberal California. Barely any handguns left. Never hear gunshots either. So I'm unsure on my state's ability to win any civil war, or even handle firearms. 

But if push came to shove, I'd side with my states soveirgnty and support whatever was necessary to maintain our immigrant loving - DEI supporting - woke determination of freedom and interpretation of the constitution - particularly on the civil rights of the undocumented.

Though I see more like a Serenity Valley Scenario where all the belief of our own fight is mercilessly crushed by overbearing force.

Hey, but then I'll get to be a vagabond mercenary afterwards.

ETA:

That took what, 4 hours for The 9th circuit to overrule the lower court on appeal? Troop deployment to resume. So it goes when you try to use the courts to fight. 

We'll keep at it. And our senators will keep getting kicked out of things and temporarily detained.  I mean, if they're willing to do it...

[andy06shake]

NGL America hasn't looked good in a while... it was well past time for just reflection, we are in self-help mode. The signal is we tried it your way, now we're going to try it my way. 

FWIW, you want those bases sparsely manned when Israel hits Iran, those bases will be under Iranian mssile threat

The thing is LA looks just fine for the most part, and not exactly burning or in flames.

The signal Trump is sending seems to be that your First Amendment, specifically the right to peaceful free protest, doesn't interest him much.

He's using ICE and the National Guard plus some of those military troops, to help with immigration raids now.

And the people he's picking up from those places of employment, or their homes, dont appear to be the real criminals and drug dealers he claimed to be going after.

A lot of those poor sods probably voted for him.

This is madness, I just really don't understand why he's going after hard-working people, as opposed to those he claimed would be his target.

[WallFlowerActive]

And Trump's budget increases national debt

And I’m not happy about the increase in national debt in the future.  I repeatedly posted over concerns for the USA national dept and pointed out that is a real threat to the USA on ATS

Only to have libs try to play the game it’s no big deal, who owns the debt.  

so why is the US credit rating under scrutiny? 

Now show you have any concern in the past over national debt.  Especially under Biden.  

or did you buy into Pelosi’s trillion dollar coin.

[quintessentone]

Who didn't see this coming?
Federal judge questions constitutionality of Trump sending National Guard to contain LA riots

So after the California government did nothing, and cried about the Feds having to step in to protect Federal property, Newsom took the issue of this to local courts. 

If anyone doesn't get it yet, these so-called Democrats are in fact Trotskyists, and are clearly pushing for a Civil War. This isn't just an LA issue at this point, but the people behind these riots are fully operational in a number of US cities. Now with this move to, once again, remove Executive powers from the office of President, people really can't just turn a blind eye to how deep this infiltration by these Trotskyists have gone. 

Side Note: the notion that the Trotskyists are pushing for a Civil War is just my opinion. Just like how it was my opinion that China was funding these riots through Trotskyist Organizations. So yeah, take heed and be alert people, this mess is not even begun yet.

The President works under constitutional law is how a federal judge interprets the law. Who knows the law better?

The appeal will go to court next Tuesday and we will see how the law is interpreted there.

"How we read the Commander-in-Chief Clause matters. Without a sense of the Clause’s alpha and omega, Presidents will continue to cite it to evade, minimize, and commandeer congressional powers. If this Article’s assertions are correct, however, Presidents will no longer be able to insist that the Founders established a chief commander that can start wars or one that enjoys exclusive authority over operations. By decrypting the Clause, this Article highlights the extent to which Presidents have amassed power untethered from constitutional moorings and also may help fend off further executive overreach. Although some puzzles remain, this Article takes some initial strides in the long march towards deciphering the Commander-in-Chief Clause."

Yale Law Journal - Deciphering the Commander-in-Chief Clause