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(06-12-2025, 03:42 PM)quintessentone Wrote: "No member of Congress has the authority to activate the District of Columbia National Guard. Only the president, defense secretary and U.S. Army secretary do."
PolitiFact | Fact-checking claim Pelosi ‘takes responsibility’ for not calling National Guard on Jan. 6, 2021
Quote:Yesterday, the Subcommittee posted this video from January 6, 2021, which was recorded by Alexandra Pelosi and provided directly to the Subcommittee by HBO. In the video former Speaker Nancy Pelosi stated "I take responsibility" for the security failures of the Capitol that day.
“As Nancy Pelosi was being evacuated from the Capitol on January 6, 2021 she admitted that, as Speaker of the House, she was responsible for the security failures, and for not having the National Guard at the Capitol,” said Chairman Loudermilk.
https://cha.house.gov/press-releases?ID=...33705FF9D8
Funny, it’s what Pelosi said on video. Is that false.
The Capitol Police Board also has the power to call the national guard to the Capitol. Where the United States Capitol Building is under the control of the United States Congress and is not under the control of the District of Columbia. Makes sense that the President in a separate branch of government just can’t call the military to march on the Capitol Building.
So. You are angry the president is exercising his authority concerning the national guard in LA. But you are angry because Trump didn’t exercise authority he didn’t have to secure the Capitol Building with the national guard. Where that is under the authority of the Capitol Police Board and Congress.
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(06-12-2025, 05:22 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Funny, it’s what Pelosi said on video. Is that false.
The Capitol Police Board also has the power to call the national guard to the Capitol. Where the United States Capitol Building is under the control of the United States Congress and is not under the control of the District of Columbia. Makes sense that the President in a separate branch of government just can’t call the military to march on the Capitol Building.
So. You are angry the president is exercising his authority concerning the national guard in LA. But you are angry because Trump didn’t exercise authority he didn’t have to secure the Capitol Building with the national guard. Where that is under the authority of the Capitol Police Board and Congress.
Because that was a real and actual Insurrection?
Seriously?
Of course he had authority.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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Newsom keeps clobbering Trump with the truth.
While he continues to not even know what day of the week it is.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-12-2025, 05:20 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Funny how you left out the part of the quote where I explained how illegal immigration is also hurting the illegal aliens. Your creative editing to take things out of context is slightly impressive.
This is what I actually posted.
"Have you considered your moral compass could be droken? You seem to be on the wrong course for the best moral outcome, meaning the best life for all involved.
The citizens are suffering because of the criminality of some of the illegals aliens. The illegals aliens that are now trying not to still be criminals are stuck with a criminal past. They broke the existing law. Not something Trump suddenly made up but something the Biden administration just ignored.
Again, Biden did this. He let illegals in."
Again, only slightly impressed with your cleverness.
Gee, I better rewrite it to impress you then. :)
Whoever people say they are hurting. Americans, other immigrants, whatever. I will never see it as a problem. Only a device to turn immigration numbers during a global recession into an authoritarian regime. The false flag that went unnoticed. The one trying to polarize me about an invasion and national emergency that is fallacy upon fallacy.
I think whoever wants to believe illegals are the problem with the country doesn't have much respect for me at all. Especially to try to dictate my moral positions like that. Or want me to rescind my compassion over their deliberate focus on what they want me to be outraged at. Immigrants account for what, 0.01% of total US homicides? The people born here kill more than every other country on Earth without the immigrants.
They want me to be a useful supporter or useful rioter. I won't be either, but I will use a single internet account to voice my opinion and feel like I'm doing something.
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06-12-2025, 05:39 PM
This post was last modified: 06-12-2025, 05:50 PM by WallFlowerActive. 
(06-12-2025, 05:29 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Because that was a real and actual Insurrection?
Seriously?
Of course he had authority.
State what federal code, or where in the constitution the President can order the military to secure the Capitol Building?
Do you understand the Capitol Building is under the control of Congress and is different than the District of Columbia.
Why with the separation of powers would you want the President to have the authority to have the military to match on the Capitol Building? Especially if people are wigging out over the President ordering the NG into action in LA.
Quote:A Senate report released June 8 found the Capitol Police Board’s failure to request National Guard assistance prior to Jan. 6, despite Capitol Police intelligence indicating that there was a threat, meant that the D.C. National Guard was not “activated, staged and prepared to quickly respond to an attack on the Capitol.”
https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/...n-the-news
If people with US flags mobbing the Capitol Building is an insurrection. What do you call people waving Mexico Flags on US soil, burning and lotting, all in an attempt to prevent federal agents from doing their duty?
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(06-12-2025, 05:39 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: State what federal code, or where in the constitution the President can order the military to secure the Capitol Building?
Do you understand the Capitol Building is u see the control of Congress and is different than the District of Columbia.
Why with the separation of powers would you want the President to have the authority to have the Miltto match on the Capital Building? Especially if people are wigging out over the President ordering the NG into action in LA.
If people with US flags mobbing the Capitol Building is an insurrection. What do you call people waving Mexico Flags on US soil, burning and lotting, all in an attempt to prevent federal agents from doing their duty?
The same as what the rest of anti-American, Trump haters say......a walk in the park peaceful gathering.
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(06-12-2025, 05:35 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Gee, I better rewrite it to impress you then. :)
Whoever people say they are hurting. Americans, other immigrants, whatever. I will never see it as a problem. Only a device to turn immigration numbers during a global recession into an authoritarian regime. The false flag that went unnoticed. The one trying to polarize me about an invasion and national emergency that was fallacy upon fallacy.
I think whoever wants to believe illegals are the problem with the country doesn't have much respect for me at all. Especially to try to dictate my moral positions like that. Or rescind my compassion.
They want me to be a useful supporter or useful rioter. I won't be either, but I will use a single account to voice my opinion and feel like I'm doing something.
You still don't understand. The illegal aliens are not the problem, it is what the Biden administration let them do is the problem. They were allowed in unlawfully. They were used as pawns that now need moved back to where they are supposed to be.
Some politicians think it is just a game.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(06-12-2025, 05:35 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: (06-12-2025, 05:35 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I think whoever wants to believe illegals are the problem with the country
See my last post…
Quote:The immigration crisis may bankrupt cities – including Chicago – as federal funds fall short of needs – CNBC
https://wirepoints.org/the-immigration-c...eeds-cnbc/
Cities are in debt, the US is 30 some trillion in debt. The US is approaching insolvency. The open border made it worse.
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Here's a horrible truth.
At the moment, you would appear to have more troops in the city of Los Angeles than you have stationed in Iraq.
I mean, i get that it's a temporary situation, or at least i certainly hope that's the case.
But it does not look good, and amounts to political signalling imho.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-12-2025, 05:43 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: You still don't understand. The illegal aliens are not the problem, it is what the Biden administration let them do is the problem. They were allowed in unlawfully. They were used as pawns that now need moved back to where they are supposed to be.
Some politicians think it is just a game.
Where they are suppose to be is negligible, IMO. I don't buy that line of logic either.
Of course Biden's policy was open border amnesty. The people who voted for him wanted that. He was appeasing the movement that elected him. I LOVED the concept of coming across, declaring, and getting dropped off at a train station to await a court date. It's why I voted for Biden. Blame me, not Biden.
But how are they pawns? It was a social sometimes destructive time for everything. It was a perceived coming together to unfuck the world through protest. All races, all nationalities, all pronouns, all legal citizenship statuses. Unity and sunshine. And the gum we like is coming back in style. For better or worse.
WE wanted the open border because of things like BLM and Trump's first term was bad/mean enough.
But then even people who supported the open borders initially, got overloaded with legal cases, and once consensus shifted among his supporters, Biden clamped down.
He did what a politician should, wait for the people, and I don't see how immigrants were being used by Biden if we were the ones that demanded the laissez faire border policy.
That sounds like representative democracy to me. And if I still don't get it, I don't think I really want to. Plus, I am immune to the point of view gun.
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