Driver drives into crowd in Liverpool City Centre in England

[Shinzaun]

The Southport attack was carried out Axel Rudakubana, an 18-year-old from Lancashire, England.

The false claim was that the Southport attacker was an asylum seeker.

Did not help that stupid people claimed he arrived in the UK by boat, which also fueled the flames, given the current climate at the time.

When in reality, the attacker was born in Cardiff, Wales, to Rwandan parents and had no history of arriving in the UK by boat or being asylum seekers.

I said NOTHING about Axel being an asylum seeker. Nothing at all. My comments were about religious doctrines and the fact that they ALWAYS get weapinised. Some religions take the weaponisation too far. Christianity being one of them if you look to the past

[TzarChasm]

What a load of utter bollocks. 
My comment was on the apparent need for various groups of people with religious beliefs trying to force their belief on a other religious group. 
And you know full well what I meant

sorry, I guess I just misinterpreted the part where you said "ban all religions" which was quoted in my remarks. And then there's the small inconvenient matter of correlating this tragedy with any kind of creed or manifesto.

[andy06shake]

"My comments were about religious doctrines and the fact that they ALWAYS get weapinised."

Ok, and i tend to agree where all organised religions are concerned.

But just to point out, the horrible little bastard comes from a Christian family.

He's not even Muslim(as claimed at the time among many other fabrications and lies).

Hence, the reason the fabrications and lies about him spread at the time was rather hypocritical, to say the least. 

And fueled the flames regarding the mobbing and rioting that took place.

In this instance, the Police chose to release info about age and race, so they did not get a repeat performance of what happened last year.

But in doing so, they have set a dangerous precedent.

Meaning what happens next time something tragic happens that does happen to involve somebody of the muslim persuasion or a refugee, and the Police are obligated to release the same information?

I'm apt to go with nothing good.

[Inspector44]

The Southport attack was carried out Axel Rudakubana, an 18-year-old from Lancashire, England.

The false claim was that the Southport attacker was an asylum seeker.

Did not help that stupid people claimed he arrived in the UK by boat, which also fueled the flames, given the current climate at the time.

When in reality, the attacker was born in Cardiff, Wales, to Rwandan parents and had no history of arriving in the UK by boat or being asylum seekers.

It does prove that bringing them in to your country by literal boat loads was a poor decision. He was no more English than I am.

[Inspector44]

A reporter an hour after the incident had said that police had starting lifting restrictions for car access allowing vehicles onto the roads. In the first video of the car before it starts hitting people, it almost appears as if the driver was trying to get past the crowd and people started attacking his car and opened his door, causing him to speed off, then the next videos are him hitting people??

But it was difficult to understand why he was attempting to drive amongst the crowd other than to cause chaos?

That's literally what happened in Charlottesville. Kid was trying to get around, people started attacking his car and he gunned it. Sometimes the flight mode takes over all other responses and causes people to flee without any regard for other's safety.

[andy06shake]

"It does prove that bringing them in to your country by literal boat loads was a poor decision. He was no more English than I am."

I don't think bringing boatloads of people of any religion here will bode well, Muslim or otherwise, given the present climate and tensions that surround immigration.

However, Axel Muganwa Rudakubana was born on August 7, 2006, in Cardiff, Wales, hence he is indeed a UK citizen no matter what you think.

And his Rwandan Christian parents, Alphonse Rudakubana and Laetitia Muzayire, relocated to the UK in 2002, were not boat people or Muslim either. 

Facts are facts, you see.

[andy06shake]

"That's literally what happened in Charlottesville. Kid was trying to get around, people started attacking his car and he gunned it."

In this instance, the fellow seems to have chosen to tailgate an ambulance into an area where it was not hard to establish he was not supposed to be.

It was not so much a mistake or accident as it was a stupid choice, hence the culpability lands on his own feet, by my guess.

As to his actions, those were indeed deplorable. 

"Sometimes the flight mode takes over all other responses and causes people to flee without any regard for other's safety."

I dont imagine being mad with the gear helped the situation either. 

If you are going to drive and take drugs, bad things are apt to happen, like tailgating ambulances into restricted areas and then mowing down children and other pedestrians.

[covent]

I don't think bringing boatloads of people of any religion here will bode well, Muslim or otherwise, given the present climate and tensions that surround immigration.

However, Axel Muganwa Rudakubana was born on August 7, 2006, in Cardiff, Wales, hence he is indeed a UK citizen no matter what you think.

And his Rwandan Christian parents, Alphonse Rudakubana and Laetitia Muzayire, relocated to the UK in 2002, were not boat people or Muslim either. 

Doesn't matter who or what his parents are, the Stockport killer was a radicalised Muslim.
 

Facts are facts, you see.

Indeed

[sahgwa]

Sounds like an impaired driver freaking out and trying to get out.
Would not be surprised if the crowd thought he was purposely a threat and thus started 'escalating' it more too.
Sad event and I am glad no fatalities!

[andy06shake]

Doesn't matter who or what his parents are, the Stockport killer was a radicalised Muslim.
 

Indeed

There is no credible evidence that the so-called "Stockport killer" was a radicalised Muslim.

You're simply spreading misinformation in what i can only assume is an attempt to associate violent crime with a specific religion without any sort of basis.

Which is exactly how all those stupid nonsensical riots on the streets of the UK transpired last year.  

Else I'm sure you will be able to provide tangible evidence and facts to back up the claim Axel Rudakubana was a radicalised Muslim?

I'll wait, because you won't be able to, same as the rest.

Investigations into the horrible little bastard concluded that he had a deep obsession with violence and genocide.

And that he had consumed a wide range of extremist materials, including content related to the Rwandan genocide, Adolf Hitler, and Genghis Khan.

He also possessed various documents, such as an al-Qaeda training manual, but there was no evidence to suggest he adhered to any specific religious or ideological cause.