Donald Trump found guilty on all counts in ‘hush money’ trial

[putnam6]

My opinion is that Trump should have already been convicted for much more serious crimes when he mobilised the 'patriotic' mob back in 2021 which resulted in the very well known Capitol riots.

Hmmm, you don't think if TPTB could have made that happen, they would have?

Respectfully they didn't because they couldn't guarantee they could make it stick. 

Getting a conviction in New York was much easier but time will tell if it derails Trump's campaign. REALITY. 

[Byrd]

Well, all the added publicity and making Trump seem to be attacked, sure did help his campaign finances a lot. Now his base is re-energized even more than his campaign coffers. LOL if they wanted to end Trump's campaign this probably isn't effective.

Predictably...

now will the Republican Party cut bait and go with Nikki Haley?

The political theater ALONE is tiresome, detrimental, and distracting from what our politicians should be doing...

Now that I look at it, he says "donors" and not "dollars."

Now... you may not be on his email list, but I am.  His staff has apparently filtered the chryons right now, but in the past I've noticed a lot of $1.00 donations, which indicate someone from the liberal/democrat/independent/objecting Republicans side paying a token amount so they can give him their negative opinions of his proposed political platform, his stance on issues, and ...everything about him.  Yes, these do energize his base... but it doesn't look as if the base is that robust.

By the way, whoever designed and did the basic format for these emails is a pure marketing genius.  And I mean that sincerely.  They're crafted to very effectively encourage his hardcore folks to send more money.

I agree that the political theatre is tiresome and I do want the politicians to get back to administrative and legislative duties and quit posturing.

[BeyondKnowledge]

 Hell 10 years is too long in my estimation, maybe do it like the weatherman and temperatures. For example, Biden has only been President for 3 1/2 years, but it FEELS like he has been President for 10 years. 

I can't think of a Senator, Congressperson, Governor, or Mayor where I'd need to see them serve 10 years. 

The 7-year itch rule applies... after getting screwed by the same person for 6-7 years you are usually ready for a little variety.

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Well, all the added publicity and making Trump seem to be attacked, sure did help his campaign finances a lot. Now his base is re-energized even more than his campaign coffers. LOL if they wanted to end Trump's campaign this probably isn't effective.

Predictably...

now will the Republican Party cut bait and go with Nikki Haley?

The political theater ALONE is tiresome, detrimental, and distracting from what our politicians should be doing...


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I was meaning 10 years total for life of the person in any elected office.

Seven years as dog catcher would make anyone ineligible for the 4 year presidental term.

[Maxmars]

My opinion is that Trump should have already been convicted for much more serious crimes when he mobilised the 'patriotic' mob back in 2021 which resulted in the very well known Capitol riots.

The Capitol riots resulted in serious injuries and deaths and behind the mobilisation was Donald Trump himself. The act looked like an attempted coup or a terror attack. He should have received a very lengthy sentence back then.

Respectfully,

Not to beat a long dead horse, but staying "on target" in a political discussion is how you prevent repugnant garbage discussions.  You defined a parameter... stick to it.

And incidentally, ANY PRESIDENT you could think of could be charged with many varied crimes... and while they sometimes are... it's mostly by foreign interests (with some noteable exceptions.)

[DBCowboy]

Trumps crime.


Cohen paid Stormy for signing an NDA, 130K. Trump paid back Cohen the 130K in 12 installments.

Then Trump who just paid his lawyer, ledgered it in accounting as legal fees. 12 Times.

Cohen had invoiced Trump to pay him legal fees 10 times.

12 plus 12 plus 10

34

Now compare that to Hillary paying legal fees to her lawyer for creating the Steele Dossier.



Yes, this is a political witch hunt.

[K218b]

Respectfully,

Not to beat a long dead horse, but staying "on target" in a political discussion is how you prevent repugnant garbage discussions.  You defined a parameter... stick to it.

And incidentally, ANY PRESIDENT you could think of could be charged with many varied crimes... and while they sometimes are... it's mostly by foreign interests (with some noteable exceptions.)

My point was to make a comparison and not to revisit old discussions made on other platforms. What happened on that day was much more serious.

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Trumps crime.


Cohen paid Stormy for signing an NDA, 130K. Trump paid back Cohen the 130K in 12 installments.

Then Trump who just paid his lawyer, ledgered it in accounting as legal fees. 12 Times.

Cohen had invoiced Trump to pay him legal fees 10 times.

12 plus 12 plus 10

34

Now compare that to Hillary paying legal fees to her lawyer for creating the Steele Dossier.



Yes, this is a political witch hunt.

If you see the full verdict it describes things differently.

I have given the link earlier

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charg...y-verdict/

[pianopraze]

Kangaroos are getting Mad about this.

[K218b]

Hmmm, you don't think if TPTB could have made that happen, they would have?

Respectfully they didn't because they couldn't guarantee they could make it stick. 

Getting a conviction in New York was much easier but time will tell if it derails Trump's campaign. REALITY. 


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I don't know why they couldn't.
It was crystal clear what happened.

As for the current events, it's a boost to his election campaign

[DBCowboy]

My point was to make a comparison and not to revisit old discussions made on other platforms. What happened on that day was much more serious.

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If you see the full verdict it describes things differently.

I am have given the link earlier

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charg...y-verdict/

Everything I posted was fact.

It's like a court charging 34 counts of murder to someone who stabbed a person 34 times.

It's a witch hunt.

[putnam6]

I was meaning 10 years total for life of the person in any elected office.

Seven years as dog catcher would make anyone ineligible for the 4 year presidental term.

Yes, I misunderstood, do they still vote for animal control? 

LOL but, I'll vote for you if you can make it happen...

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I don't know why they couldn't.
It was crystal clear what happened.

As for the current events, it's a boost to his ele in his election campaign

Im gobsmacked Trump is still in the race, 4 cases, millions of dollars spent

It's not sounding crystal clear at all, and TPTB can not miss on this one, one reason it's being delayed and TPTB can't be certain of a conviction.

They can't afford to have it brought to the USSC and be dismissed either.

China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea BTW have to be loving the political turmoil and theater. 

Not even going to get into the congressional hush/slush fund.  

$300k in taxpayer funds has been spent settling sexual harassment claims against Congress, report says

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/30...eport-says

 Common Cause Calls for Full Disclosure of Congressional Slush Funds and Shady Deals Used to Hide Sexual Harassment & Other Abuses
https://www.commoncause.org/media/common...er-abuses/

 The main thing its not hitting him in the polls hard enough





https://apnews.com/article/trump-trial-h...2080eba0ad

The January 6th  case has been slowed for months by an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court on a legally untested question about presidential immunity. What the justices decide will determine when, and how, it proceeds — and if there’s any chance of a trial before November.
 
The court heard arguments April 25 on Trump’s claims that a former president is immune from prosecution for official White House acts, a position vigorously contested by federal prosecutors who say there’s no protection in the Constitution or anywhere in the law for commanders in chief who commit crimes.
The justices puzzled during arguments over where the line should be drawn, and though it seemed unlikely from their questions that they’ll adopt Trump’s views of absolute immunity, they did seem potentially poised to narrow the case. A decision is expected by the end of June or early July.

One option will be to send it back to the trial judge, Tanya Chutkan, for her to determine which allegations in the indictment constitute official acts and must therefore be stricken from the case — and which do not.
 That kind of analysis could be time-consuming and result in additional delays, though by the same token, a more slender set of allegations could make the case easier for the Smith team to prosecute and eat up less time on the election-year clock.

Either way, a monthslong gap between the high court’s decision and any trial means the case will have been pushed far off course from its trial date. And though a trial could conceivably start this fall, at the very earliest, it seems more likely that there won’t be time to squeeze it in.
 
If Trump loses the election, this case — like the others — will presumably proceed as before. But if he wins, he could appoint an attorney general who would seek the dismissal of this case and the other federal prosecution he faces. He could also attempt to pardon himself if he reclaims the White House.