Commentary on the Bob Lazar Tape

[Kwaka]

"During the podcast, George Knapp discussed Bob Lazar and mentioned that Lazar was told while working on “the program” that humans were viewed by extraterrestrials as “containers of souls.” This may sound bizarre and fictional to many people; however, Lazar can be seen saying the exact same thing in his 1989 interviews. (Source)"

This does fit with how trauma based mind control techniques work, make things so bad for the original identity that it disassociates and opens up a space for other identities to inhabit the body. When looking into cases of Dissociative Identify Disorder / Multiple Personality, it is common to find some trauma that cracked this container.

[quintessentone]

This does fit with how trauma based mind control techniques work, make things so bad for the original identity that it disassociates and opens up a space for other identities to inhabit the body. When looking into cases of Dissociative Identify Disorder / Multiple Personality, it is common to find some trauma that cracked this container.

Or one can look at it as there being a definite separation of matter and energy, as in the body being physical matter and the soul/spirit being divine energy.

[Stealth Blimp]

I often wonder how this old rogue is doing?

[andy06shake]

The thing about Bob Lazar's story is that his socalled Element 115 simply doesn't do what it says on the tin.

Or at least any isotope of such we have managed to synthesize as far as im aware.

They are extremely unstable with half-lives measured in milliseconds.

And far too short-lived to have any exotic gravitational or energetic properties.

The same with his "water-powered car" which had the same core problems every water-as-fuel claim runs into. 

Basically, a perpetual-motion concept dressed up as engineering.

[quintessentone]

The thing about Bob Lazar's story is that his socalled Element 115 simply doesn't do what it says on the tin.

Or at least any isotope of such we have managed to synthesize as far as im aware.

They are extremely unstable with half-lives measured in milliseconds.

And far too short-lived to have any exotic gravitational or energetic properties.

The same with his "water-powered car" which had the same core problems every water-as-fuel claim runs into. 

Basically, a perpetual-motion concept dressed up as engineering.

This is why Element 115 was so named:

""Element 115, or moscovium, is a man-made, superheavy element that has 115 protons in its nucleus," emailed Jacklyn Gates, a scientist with the Heavy Elements Group in the Nuclear Science Division for Berkeley Lab in California, whom we spoke with in 2020."

Does the Real Element 115 Have a Connection With UFOs? | HowStuffWorks

"Lead:
In 1989, a soft-spoken technician named Robert “Bob” Lazar went on Las Vegas television and said he’d worked at a secret facility called S-4 south of Area 51, reverse-engineering nine craft of non-human origin. The fuel, he said, was a then-unknown “Element 115” capable of bending gravity itself. Three decades later, Element 115 is indeed on the periodic table—now called moscovium—but what modern science has made of it diverges sharply from what Lazar described."

"In those early interviews, Lazar asserted that the craft he worked on were fueled by a stable isotope of Element 115. When bombarded with protons, he said, it produced a unique reaction that generated a gravity-A wave, allowing the saucer to “fall” in the direction of travel—essentially a controlled warping of spacetime. At the time, Element 115 had not yet been synthesized in a lab, though its place on the periodic table had long been predicted by nuclear theory.

Bob Lazar, Element 115, and the Enduring Mystery Behind His Claims - UFO Pulse

So could it be that they used the same name, but the two are totally different elements?

[andy06shake]

This is why Element 115 was so named:

""Element 115, or moscovium, is a man-made, superheavy element that has 115 protons in its nucleus," emailed Jacklyn Gates, a scientist with the Heavy Elements Group in the Nuclear Science Division for Berkeley Lab in California, whom we spoke with in 2020."

Does the Real Element 115 Have a Connection With UFOs? | HowStuffWorks

"Lead:
In 1989, a soft-spoken technician named Robert “Bob” Lazar went on Las Vegas television and said he’d worked at a secret facility called S-4 south of Area 51, reverse-engineering nine craft of non-human origin. The fuel, he said, was a then-unknown “Element 115” capable of bending gravity itself. Three decades later, Element 115 is indeed on the periodic table—now called moscovium—but what modern science has made of it diverges sharply from what Lazar described."

"In those early interviews, Lazar asserted that the craft he worked on were fueled by a stable isotope of Element 115. When bombarded with protons, he said, it produced a unique reaction that generated a gravity-A wave, allowing the saucer to “fall” in the direction of travel—essentially a controlled warping of spacetime. At the time, Element 115 had not yet been synthesized in a lab, though its place on the periodic table had long been predicted by nuclear theory.

Bob Lazar, Element 115, and the Enduring Mystery Behind His Claims - UFO Pulse

So could it be that they used the same name, but the two are totally different elements?

 
The problem being Lazar's "Element 115" is not a different substance with the same name.

Moscovium, has an "atomic number" of 115.

And behaves exactly as physics predicted.

Again, it's extremely unstable and short-lived with a decay measured in milliseconds.

So it cannot power reactors or generate gravity waves.

For Lazar's version to exist, it would need to be a magically stable isotope, which it isn't.

Sharing the same atomic number means they're the same element.

Isotopes can differ, but none remotely resemble Lazar's description.

[quintessentone]

 
The problem being Lazar's "Element 115" is not a different substance with the same name.

Moscovium, has an "atomic number" of 115.

And behaves exactly as physics predicted.

Again, it's extremely unstable and short-lived with a decay measured in milliseconds.

So it cannot power reactors or generate gravity waves.

For Lazar's version to exist, it would need to be a magically stable isotope, which it isn't.

Sharing the same atomic number means they're the same element.

Isotopes can differ, but none remotely resemble Lazar's description.

Lazar says Element 115 when bombarded with protons, so extra protons in addition to the 115, then behaves differently. Has anyone ever tried to do this?

[andy06shake]

Lazar says Element 115 when bombarded with protons, so extra protons in addition to the 115, then behaves differently. Has anyone ever tried to do this?

Yes, scientists have effectively done exactly what Lazar describes.

Because creating heavier elements is bombarding them with protons and/or heavier ions. 

When moscovium is hit with extra protons, it simply becomes a different, even heavier nucleus.

But they are wildly unstable and decay near enough instantly.

As far as im aware, no experiment has ever produced a stable isotope of 115 or anything near Lazar's description.

The problem is Element 115 lies outside "the island of stability" because it's proton count overwhelms the binding force.

His physics doesn't match reality.

I wish they did because it would open up travel to the stars. 

Alas, that is simply not the case. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

[quintessentone]

Yes, scientists have effectively done exactly what Lazar describes.

Because creating heavier elements is bombarding them with protons and/or heavier ions. 

When moscovium is hit with extra protons, it simply becomes a different, even heavier nucleus.

But they are wildly unstable and decay near enough instantly.

As far as im aware, no experiment has ever produced a stable isotope of 115 or anything near Lazar's description.

The problem is Element 115 lies outside "the island of stability" because it's proton count overwhelms the binding force.

His physics doesn't match reality.

I wish they did because it would open up travel to the stars. 

Alas, that is simply not the case. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_stability

Somehow I feel that the scientists did not recreate the exact conditions that would have been found on the alien craft.

[andy06shake]

Somehow I feel that the scientists did not recreate the exact conditions that would have been found on the alien craft.

Alleged alien craft mate.

But yeah, short of actually having another alien craft.

I suspect you could be correct.

And yet the problem persists.

The nuclear models show stability peaks only near very specific "magic" proton–neutron numbers, which are far from 115.

No experiment I'm aware of hints at a hidden stable form of 115.

Lazar's idea is imaginative.

Just not supported by real physics.