Skinny Bob Likely to be a HOAX

[DanZarfati]

Hi guys. So exasperating still talking about Skinny Bob, it was never my favorite thing. But I do thing this video will shed some light what is probably behind it. Please read the text below if you don't want to watch the thing. 

 [font][font]TL;DR:
First, I make it clear that I am no debunker, quite the opposite. I’m a UFO author and experiencer.[/font][/font]
[font][font]Second, I explain that I come from an art and philosophy background, which means I approach Skinny Bob through contextual analysis. I give Shakespeare as an example, where we should study all the plays to understand the whole picture, with Skinny Bob we should examine the full body of work by Ivan0135. His videos point less toward pure CGI and more toward dolls, masks, prosthetic makeup, and related techniques. This suggests we shouldn’t be looking for a purely digital solution, but rather a hybrid one.[/font][/font]
[font][font]I give a brief demonstration of the mesh warp effect, a method that could have been used to subtly alter the proportions of a mask, while also noting the possibility that this could be a purely mechanical apparatus.[/font][/font]
[font][font]Following that, I present an example of an artist capable of similar work: Chris Cunningham. His projects demonstrate techniques and aesthetic challenges comparable to those in Skinny Bob, showing that such a production is entirely achievable with the right skill set. This is just an example, there are probably hundreds of people qualified to create something of this level.
I also make it clear that to me, the main point is the high level of confabulations. Ivan is providing was to a content that we would expect to a leaker, the fundamental difference is the quality of what he is providing. The atmosphere is way above most what we have seen so far.[/font][/font]
[font][font]Which brings us to the question of motivation. If the masks and props were left over from a previous production, then the cost could have been minimal, perhaps just a creative hoax by artists who are fans of the UFO phenomenon and familiar with its tropes.[/font][/font]
[font][font]But there is also a second possibility: that the work aligns with the goals of a long-term disinformation campaign, the kind that thrives on fake leaks and the cult of the whistleblower, that is what we live in now.[/font][/font]

[FULCRUM331]

This video has been around since the early 2000s. It is fake. I know it is, because the if there is one thing animators always screw up, is how things move in real life.

[AT1]

Ha! Really? Never would have guessed. 

[andy06shake]

[Video: https://youtu.be/4JhzPLwYkw0]

Hi guys. So exasperating still talking about Skinny Bob, it was never my favorite thing. But I do thing this video will shed some light what is probably behind it. Please read the text below if you don't want to watch the thing. 

 TL;DR:
First, I make it clear that I am no debunker, quite the opposite. I’m a UFO author and experiencer.
Second, I explain that I come from an art and philosophy background, which means I approach Skinny Bob through contextual analysis. I give Shakespeare as an example, where we should study all the plays to understand the whole picture, with Skinny Bob we should examine the full body of work by Ivan0135. His videos point less toward pure CGI and more toward dolls, masks, prosthetic makeup, and related techniques. This suggests we shouldn’t be looking for a purely digital solution, but rather a hybrid one.
I give a brief demonstration of the mesh warp effect, a method that could have been used to subtly alter the proportions of a mask, while also noting the possibility that this could be a purely mechanical apparatus.
Following that, I present an example of an artist capable of similar work: Chris Cunningham. His projects demonstrate techniques and aesthetic challenges comparable to those in Skinny Bob, showing that such a production is entirely achievable with the right skill set. This is just an example, there are probably hundreds of people qualified to create something of this level.
I also make it clear that to me, the main point is the high level of confabulations. Ivan is providing was to a content that we would expect to a leaker, the fundamental difference is the quality of what he is providing. The atmosphere is way above most what we have seen so far.
Which brings us to the question of motivation. If the masks and props were left over from a previous production, then the cost could have been minimal, perhaps just a creative hoax by artists who are fans of the UFO phenomenon and familiar with its tropes.
But there is also a second possibility: that the work aligns with the goals of a long-term disinformation campaign, the kind that thrives on fake leaks and the cult of the whistleblower, that is what we live in now.

A good fake all the same. 

And despite various analyses, the true origin of the video remains uncertain.

[Kurokage]

I also believe it to be a hoax.

I know it's an experimental music video by Chris Cunningham and music by Aphex Twin, but the "Rubber Jonny" short story which was released back in 2005 shows what a little make up and imagination can do. It was all home made and shot weekends over a few years.

[DanZarfati]

You know I quoted this video right?

I also believe it to be a hoax.

I know it's an experimental music video by Chris Cunningham and music by Aphex Twin, but the "Rubber Jonny" short story which was released back in 2005 shows what a little make up and imagination can do. It was all home made and shot weekends over a few years.


[Video: https://youtu.be/9-gyf23k26I?si=9nyypNk0CrOmogsF]

[DanZarfati]

A good fake all the same. 

And despite various analyses, the true origin of the video remains uncertain.

Well, actually it does make a difference doesn't it? May be this was independent stuff. May be it is just plausible deniability. don't you think? There is a trail left behind.

[DanZarfati]

This video has been around since the early 2000s. It is fake. I know it is, because the if there is one thing animators always screw up, is how things move in real life.

I don't think they have screwed up at all. The video has a huge following up to now. What gets me is the combination of confabulation with things that are just too convinient. It had mythical reach. Just last week a group of "remote viewers" were validating the case.

[andy06shake]

Well, actually it does make a difference doesn't it? May be this was independent stuff. May be it is just plausible deniability. don't you think? There is a trail left behind.

To who?

I think it's a great fake.

As to a trail, said vid was uploaded back in 2011 to YouTube by a user named "ivan0135."

The account being notably sparse, lacking a profile picture, description, or any prior video history.

Aside from that, there is not really much to go on as far as im aware.

Edit: by the looks of it there is some ambiguity about when the videos became widely know.

With some sources claiming the footage may have originated a lot earlier, possibly as far back as 1990s

[Kurokage]

You know I quoted this video right?

That's why I posted the actual video and the name of it's creator.