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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-14-2025, 11:51 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Of course, because we know where this will go, don't we?

Is that an open treat of more violence?
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(09-14-2025, 11:52 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: It was a mostly peaceful protest. This was flat out assassination, I think in your language that would be a "false dichotomy" argument.

Mostly?

Tell that to the police who suffered serious injuries.

Do you condemn the Far Right nutter who called for the assassination of Starmer?

And, by the way, Elon Musk can fuck off to Mars.

I'm sure you'd welcome a Brit telling you to get rid of your Govt....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(09-14-2025, 11:41 AM)quintessentone Wrote: You and I know that, but those that are so filled with hate or anger or maybe mentally ill as well, as were the right-wingers at the Capitol Bldg. riot who shouted 'hang Mike Pence' seemed to think hanging him was justified.

That doesn't seem like an equal comparison.

Mentally ill people do not necessarily act rationally.

The J6 crew did exactly what was expected of them.
(09-14-2025, 11:55 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Are those pod cast telling you how to think or are you not willing to watch the actual official videos and come up with your own conclusions?

The actual video debates in their entirety were included in the podcasts, plus I watched other debates in their entirety as well, and agreed with their conclusions.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:55 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Are those pod cast telling you how to think or are you not willing to watch the actual official videos and come up with your own conclusions?

I missed that.  People are judging Kirk by what others say about him rather than actually watching and listening to him.
(09-14-2025, 11:58 AM)IDELB2006 Wrote: That doesn't seem like an equal comparison.

Mentally ill people do not necessarily act rationally.

The J6 crew did exactly what was expected of them.

Some of them expressed regret in court for their actions on that day.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:56 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Is that an open treat of more violence?

Ask DBCowboy what I meant, because he got it, and you did not.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:48 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I've been watching a lot of podcasts about his debating style (with mostly deflection) and he mostly debated less seasoned young college debaters, and if any of them got anywhere near besting him, he had the debate shut down.

So that's not really true.


Yeah, but Who's podcast ? Instead of relying on someone to tell you, why not just watch Charlie's videos and then post one you think proves what you're claiming. He debated anyone who stepped up to the mic. He went to colleges in an attempt to get young people to think, instead of following the Liberal programming they were getting.
(09-14-2025, 12:02 PM)David64 Wrote: Yeah, but Who's podcast ? Instead of relying on someone to tell you, why not just watch Charlie's videos and then post one you think proves what you're claiming. He debated anyone who stepped up to the mic. He went to colleges in an attempt to get young people to think, instead of following the Liberal programming they were getting.

I actually started watching Kirk's debates in their entirety from his site, then I watched podcasts critiquing his debate style to see if anyone else caught the flaws as I did originally.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 10:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: As to the statement and motivations.

I wish someone would bloody ask the evil little clown.

Probably not know everything until his trial if we are honest....and even then....

The last I heard he is "not cooperating".
Any statements will come from his attorney, and court filings.

I wonder if Todd Blanch has arrived yet to cut a deal.
like:
"Just plead guilty, and say that you are a lefty, and we'll let you live at club fed next to Maxwell".
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