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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-14-2025, 11:41 AM)quintessentone Wrote: You and I know that, but those that are so filled with hate or anger or maybe mentally ill as well, as were the right-wingers at the Capitol Bldg. riot who shouted 'hang Mike Pence' seemed to think hanging him was justified.


But the Capitol storming...I mean "peaceful protest"...was OK, just like the Far Right protest in London was "peaceful"?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(09-14-2025, 11:46 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Sure, but Charlie Kirk wasn't doing that.  He was the reasonable one, he was mild, a moderate.

Someone who wanted to discuss.

I've been watching a lot of podcasts about his debating style (with mostly deflection) and he mostly debated less seasoned young college debaters, and if any of them got anywhere near besting him, he had the debate shut down.

So that's not really true.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:47 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: So the news that he was living with his trans partner are false?

Well, see now, which media news are we to believe has the facts?
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:46 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Sure, but Charlie Kirk wasn't doing that.  He was the reasonable one, he was mild, a moderate.

Someone who wanted to discuss.


Well, yes, but I was replying to what you wrote.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(09-14-2025, 11:43 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: He was 22.  He didn't kill ANYONE when he was with his "MAGA" family, as you put it, it was only AFTER he attended college and was exposed to the leftist ideology.

I grew up in a Leftist family and became MAGA.
Wisely, I left home before anyone tried to kill me.
(09-14-2025, 11:48 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I've been watching a lot of podcasts about his debating style (with mostly deflection) and he mostly debated less seasoned young college debaters, and if any of them got anywhere near besting him, he had the debate shut down.

So that's not really true.

We'll have to disagree.
(09-14-2025, 11:50 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: We'll have to disagree.

Of course, because we know where this will go, don't we?
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 10:57 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: Obama and Biden did it and used the IRS to go after people.


And is this OK?

Obviously, the government does it and it should be a red flag but if regular citizens start doing it to each other to expose or harass where does it end

The right may not dox, or maybe they will)

That doesn't mean the left won't 

So we'll end up with a bunch of unhinged extremists on both sides constantly looking for enemy targets
(09-14-2025, 11:47 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: But the Capitol storming...I mean "peaceful protest"...was OK, just like the Far Right protest in London was "peaceful"?
It was a mostly peaceful protest. This was flat out assassination, I think in your language that would be a "false dichotomy" argument.
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman
(09-14-2025, 11:48 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I've been watching a lot of podcasts about his debating style (with mostly deflection) and he mostly debated less seasoned young college debaters, and if any of them got anywhere near besting him, he had the debate shut down.

So that's not really true.

Are those podcasts telling you how to think or are you not willing to watch the actual official videos and come up with your own conclusions?
“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman



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