Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[RazorV66]

3446 students signed a Prevent Charlie Kirk From Speaking at Utah State University petition. There was a counter petition to let Kirk speak with 20 signers.

I wouldn't want to be on that list right about now.

My guess is a Swifty did it because they didn't like Kirk's remarks. Seems about as reasonable as everyone else's as of yet unfounded accusations?

You wouldn't want to be on which list?
For or against?

I assume you wouldn't want to be on the one against him because everyone on it should be considered a suspect until proven otherwisd.

Put me on the list for, put me on it 20 times.

I've been pissed about this all day, I've been wearing my MAGA hat out to do errands, hoping somebody would say something to me.

But I didn't cross paths with anybody insane enough to say something.

[FlyersFan]

"Rapid developments" means they have him either dead or alive.

If they do, I hope it's alive.
Squeeze him for accomplices.
Skinny guy like that .. shouldn't have to squeeze hard ... he'll pop.

[IAMTAT]

If they do, I hope it's alive.
Squeeze him for accomplices.
Skinny guy like that .. shouldn't have to squeeze hard ... he'll pop.

I want him found alive so we can see which lefties start and support his 'GO FUND ME' page.

[Oldcarpy2]

RazorV66 wrote:

"I've been pissed about this all day, I've been wearing my MAGA hat out to do errands, hoping somebody would say something to me."

Then what you might have done if they did?

[Bush Master]

Bingo! And they say Patel AND Bongino on their way to the Utah Press Conference LATER!!!!!!
They got a Patsy Scapegoat for sure!! 

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Rather, an Escape Goat 

I updated my post on the previous page about the flight timeline.

[argentus]

3446 students signed a Prevent Charlie Kirk From Speaking at Utah State University petition. There was a counter petition to let Kirk speak with 20 signers.

I wouldn't want to be on that list right about now.

My guess is a Swifty did it because they didn't like Kirk's remarks. Seems about as reasonable as everyone else's as of yet unfounded accusations?

I know I am pages behind, but in reading to catch up, your comment raised a question to me.   This is not to counter what you wrote, but to add to it, at least in my mind.  

If in the past, we had allowed popular view or 'petitions' to determine who was "allowed" to speak their mind in universities and other public places, we would never have heard the works of Julian Bond, Eldridge Cleaver, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, James Baldwin, Harvey Milk, Marsha P. Johnson, Susie Bright, Angela Davis, Thomas Paine, John Brown, Lucy Burns, Eleanor Roosevelt .... (I feel like I'm composing an award acceptance speech, and afraid I'll leave someone out)....... and many many hundreds more.  If we allowed the majority to choose who spoke in public, we would have been lost centuries ago.  

Thank you for your post.  I think yours was a very important point.

Give yourselves a cookie if you already knew who Susie Bright is.  
Give yourselves a cookie if you didn't know, but bothered to look her up.

[CriticalStinker]

I know I am pages behind, but in reading to catch up, your comment raised a question to me.   This is not to counter what you wrote, but to add to it, at least in my mind.  

If in the past, we had allowed popular view or 'petitions' to determine who was "allowed" to speak their mind in universities and other public places, we would never have heard the works of Julian Bond, Eldridge Cleaver, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, James Baldwin, Harvey Milk, Marsha P. Johnson, Susie Bright, Angela Davis, Thomas Paine, John Brown, Lucy Burns, Eleanor Roosevelt .... (I feel like I'm composing an award acceptance speech, and afraid I'll leave someone out)....... and many many hundreds more.  If we allowed the majority to choose who spoke in public, we would have been lost centuries ago.  

Thank you for your post.  I think yours was a very important point.

Give yourselves a cookie if you already knew who Susie Bright is.  
Give yourselves a cookie if you didn't know, but bothered to look her up.

To be fair, a lot of those listed weren’t examples of the guilted age for freedom of speech. Much of them had to practice civil disobedience, which bolstered rights more.

[argentus]

3446 students signed a Prevent Charlie Kirk From Speaking at Utah State University petition. There was a counter petition to let Kirk speak with 20 signers.

I wouldn't want to be on that list right about now.

My guess is a Swifty did it because they didn't like Kirk's remarks. Seems about as reasonable as everyone else's as of yet unfounded accusations?

A followup on your comment.   I don't know if you meant Utah Valley University (Orem, Utah).   I was unable to find verification of students signing a 'Prevent Charlie Kirk From Speaking'  story.  I don't doubt it.   It it WAS at Utah State University (Logan, Ut), I can well see how that might have happened.  You see, USU is an agricultural emphasis university, and even 50 years ago when I briefly attended, it was an eclectic gathering of students from all around the world.  It was then, and possibly now, the most diverse and free-thinking place in the entire state of Utah.  I know that statement might cause a few bristling hackles.  I am not besmirching Utah.  It has come a long way in a short time and will always be a fond place for me.  

Still, USU had Eldridge Cleaver as a speaker in 1980.   That was bold.   He was fabulously received with a terrific turnout.   USU was the first place in the state to show the 'Rocky Horror Picture Show', although I admit, I thought they "Midnight Horror Show" people thought it a horror movie.   To their credit, they didn't interrupt the movie.   There was a LOT of audience participation.  

That's not to say that free-thinking is opposed to conservative values, however I believe that some facets of recent wokeness has gone overboard on occasion and seeks to create a divide between the far left and everyone else.  Just my opinion.   I believe that some facets or factions or whatever you want to call them don't WANT us to get along;  they NEED the divide and the strife to stay relevant.

[argentus]

To be fair, a lot of those listed weren’t examples of the guilted age for freedom of speech. Much of them had to practice civil disobedience, which bolstered rights more.

My point was that all of them were voted against, were prevented from speaking, and if we had held popular vote/view as the standard, we'd have never heard of them.  You could even put Ayn Rand in that category.

[andy06shake]

The fact that they have images of the suspect, yet have failed to identify him thus far, is rather strange.

It's just that in this day of age, and given the coverage, i would have thought it would be near impossible to hide.