'Alternate Theories Of UFO Origin'.

[Karl12]

Love you too mate but who on earth came up with 'sleep paralysis' meme in the last few decades? Was it the same pseudo-jokers who came up with this shit?

One has extremely serious questions when one 'follows the money' lol.

Anyway always one good example (lots more - pure theatre)





Cheers Bro (or Sis) X

[Unknownparadox]

Certainly appreciated mate (as are all the other replies) and suppose it's well worth fleshing out (or at least entertaining) all the other myriad UFO hypotheses out there.

If you want to really go off the reservation when it comes to the supra-normal then thought this was a truly fascinating chat with author Joshuah Cutchin and I would certainly recommend all his other books (haven't read 'Ecology Of Souls' yet).

It's a pretty wild ride covering high strangeness UFO occupant antics sharing specific parallels with Fae lore, shamanic practise, Near Death Experience aspects, DMT/Astral/ Consciousness studies etc. - time anomalies, the OZ factor, Jungian UFO research and 'Psychopomp' contact modalities also get brought up as well as a whole host of other freaky aspects.


You've also got quite a number of insanely crazy sounding high strangeness incidents like this one reported by seemingly normal, every day people so God knows what's going on lol.

[Video: https://youtu.be/tK5EldbpOUI]

Cheers

My take from David Paulides missing 411 series. This bigfoot thing is abducting people, and not bringing most of them back. 
Here is a interview with him. 
George Noory, David Paulides


And this is the best of the missing 411 if ask me.
Missing 411 The hunted

[Sirius]

Love you too mate but who on earth came up with 'sleep paralysis' meme in the last few decades? Was it the same pseudo-jokers who came up with this shit?

One has extremely serious questions when one 'follows the money' lol.

Anyway always one good example (lots more - pure theatre)


Cheers Bro (or Sis) X

Ja I don't know mate.  I think people mustn't just think SP is ghost or whatever, maybe it's dog or a burglar or fucking a yeti.

Who knows what's up with the UFO shit. the craft that lights up like x-miss lights or make rings might be crudes stealth, but effective.  It really confucelates ones eyes. Anything with lights is suspect, the first thing you learn in industrial psychology is the effect that lights has on workers. the russians even wrote books about it 100 years ago.

[AlienSun]

Love you too mate but who on earth came up with 'sleep paralysis' meme in the last few decades? Was it the same pseudo-jokers who came up with this shit?

One has extremely serious questions when one 'follows the money' lol.

Anyway always one good example (lots more - pure theatre)



[Video: https://youtu.be/gltmKizN_eM]

Cheers Bro (or Sis) X

My life-long interest and my second major in college was in psychology.  Plus, I have a daughter that is a therapist.  And it goes all of the way, if at least not earlier, to the Barney and Betty Hill abduction.  I would say, as a rule that formerly trained people even today do not recognize phenomena that comes from outside of the human mind.  Meaning, "It's all in your head.  There are few exceptions, Jung for one.  As for my daughter the therapist, I suspect that she wants to believe my abduction, but schooling taught her rigid positions to maintain.  --Having been a hypnotist in my early life, I've always been amazed how the process is considered worthless, benign or taboo.  But that is the influence of science for ya....  You know the term
"Google is not your friend?"  The same goes for Science (big "S").

[Darkorange]

i finally watched almost the entire presentation from Greg.

Basically there three possibilities on where he focuses on two of them leaving 'people from another planets' as a base premise. Second possibility is inter dimensions, which does not explain, and even more complicated, than people from another planets, given the variety of species seen during encounters and the third vision is our minds make up the phenomenon based on folklore from around the globe...did i get it right?

none are new by the way.

So, from another dimensions...does not explain the variety of shapes and forms...either they all come from their own dimensions or same dimension but still from other planets. he did not clarify.

the folklore is easy to explain...when unknown is seen, our mind is trying to match what is in front of the witness relying on known pattern or as Greg says, folklore characters.

my take on it....real people from another planets.

there is no need to make up an alternative nature of the phenomenon simply because we don't know yet the means of travel and current physics has no answers.

The forth possibility is us from the future...which i probably missed in that presentation but then it does not explain the variety.


cheers board! Karl, thanks again. I know there are other videos in this thread...i will watch them another time.

[Nerb]

So, from another dimensions...does not explain the variety of shapes and forms...either they all come from their own dimensions or same dimension but still from other planets. he did not clarify.

my take on it....real people from another planets.

The forth possibility is us from the future...which i probably missed in that presentation but then it does not explain the variety.

I sometimes use the analogy of our planet being a Neuron. Perhaps what we are recieving are "Figments". The beginnings of an idea, just as we venture into space with our ideas, probes, and apparently, people, "they may too. Nothing conclusive in any of it but the endless search for a connection to someone or something to give ourselves/themselves meaning beyond the known histories and beliefs.

The search for God.

I don't think visitors would be us from the future, simply because Time is a construct used to explain Change, and change cannot be undone it can only be changed again and the whole thing grows but cannot shrink. The future MAY be percievable to some extent, but that's more about "manifestation" over time.

All these things take ages, and maybe our big human leap will lead to something wonderful for those places and entities we contact and connect to, or perhaps a big dissappointment and doom, who knows?

Seeing things we cannot explain sends our grey matter into strange places, and I have experienced a few in my life, so I am open to all personal encounters without fear so far. I find those moments fascinating but few and far between.

Dream on dear travellers. Enjoy the ride.

[Unknownparadox]

i finally watched almost the entire presentation from Greg.

Basically there three possibilities on where he focuses on two of them leaving 'people from another planets' as a base premise. Second possibility is inter dimensions, which does not explain, and even more complicated, than people from another planets, given the variety of species seen during encounters and the third vision is our minds make up the phenomenon based on folklore from around the globe...did i get it right?

none are new by the way.

So, from another dimensions...does not explain the variety of shapes and forms...either they all come from their own dimensions or same dimension but still from other planets. he did not clarify.

the folklore is easy to explain...when unknown is seen, our mind is trying to match what is in front of the witness relying on known pattern or as Greg says, folklore characters.

my take on it....real people from another planets.

there is no need to make up an alternative nature of the phenomenon simply because we don't know yet the means of travel and current physics has no answers.

The forth possibility is us from the future...which i probably missed in that presentation but then it does not explain the variety.


cheers board! Karl, thanks again. I know there are other videos in this thread...i will watch them another time.

A possible explanation for the variety of shapes and forms.

If you can travel through space to reach other planets, then the ultimate goal would be information, you would spread as far and wide as possible, sending as many unmanned probes, and maned probes as possible. Colonizing other suitable planets or building your own outpost/bases. Harvesting any unknown material for study, mining known materials for your space program an advancement in technology. 

Over time these bases/outpost/colonies would most likely deviate from each other somewhat in technology, due to difference in available resources. So one large space exploring race might have many different kinds ships. Ships built around star a are saucer shaped, ships built around star b, football shaped.

Then you throw in different kinds of ships to do different jobs. You probably need some war ships, you never know when you might run into a hostile race. Lots different kinds of science ships, after all information is what it's all about. Then you got experimental craft. And of course you will always have older ships and newer ships.

If you have 4 or 5 races all operating similar to that profile. That's a lot of different ships.

Then if you throw in some are coming from a different time or dimension. Moving into this timeline/dimension might look kinda wild. Some might have cloaking devices, and who knows what something cloaking or de cloaking would look like. Or a partially cloaked craft would look like.

No matter why there are so many different kinds. One thing is clear. They all are interested in this planet. And genetic material seems to be on the list of things they want.

[Sirius]

i finally watched almost the entire presentation from Greg.

Basically there three possibilities on where he focuses on two of them leaving 'people from another planets' as a base premise. Second possibility is inter dimensions, which does not explain, and even more complicated, than people from another planets, given the variety of species seen during encounters and the third vision is our minds make up the phenomenon based on folklore from around the globe...did i get it right?

none are new by the way.

So, from another dimensions...does not explain the variety of shapes and forms...either they all come from their own dimensions or same dimension but still from other planets. he did not clarify.

the folklore is easy to explain...when unknown is seen, our mind is trying to match what is in front of the witness relying on known pattern or as Greg says, folklore characters.

my take on it....real people from another planets.

there is no need to make up an alternative nature of the phenomenon simply because we don't know yet the means of travel and current physics has no answers.

The forth possibility is us from the future...which i probably missed in that presentation but then it does not explain the variety.


cheers board! Karl, thanks again. I know there are other videos in this thread...i will watch them another time.

The folklore stuff is very strange, it doesn't match theology exactly. It's a random mix of things. Like Owls are common.

One effect of the strangeness is that it confuses you and is likely to place you in an altered state of conciseness.  Seems like a dramatic thing to be just a side effect.

[Darkorange]

The folklore stuff is very strange, it doesn't match theology exactly. It's a random mix of things. Like Owls are common.

If you can elaborate on this. I am myself seeking dots known to me or emerging in attempt to connect them hopefully.

[Sirius]

If you can elaborate on this. I am myself seeking dots known to me or emerging in attempt to connect them hopefully.

Seems to be more about the symbolism than anything else. Like the animals are messengers. 

Belief only matters in perception, some folks will shove everything in one box and others will be more open.

I just read what you typed now again, your dropping the fantastical stuff and dismissing it as such.  Ride the train until you run out of track, jump before the crash.  Don't miss the connections along the way.