Official BS UFO Explanations.

[Karl12]

Don't think anyone is any closer to identifying UFO origin but do think a pretty strong case can be made for official government UFO investigations attempting to deceive the general public and initiate a 'cover up' of information.

Regarding official historical government deception we've got major manipulation over the actual numbers of 'actual unknowns'; reams of missing 'hot reports' which never even reached Bluebook (and completely ridiculous explanations for many that did) and unscientific 'scientific' investigations abused by intel agencies to 'debunk' the phenomena.. with the popular 'debunkers' of the time also having known ties to said agencies.

Probably boring for some but this is an ongoing research thread dealing with highly dubious (or blatantly bullshit) USAF UFO explanations - a lot of the source material has gone for good these days but the updated info is posted below and please share if you know of any other examples.






• Spurious, contrived or just plain ridiculous 'official' government UFO explanations:














Granted many folks not really into UFO research just unquestioningly accept these USAF debunks without a second look but if a person examines the case histories then many of the explanations simply fail to stand up - here's what American physicist Dr James E. Mcdonald had to say about it:








From 10:00

• "As a result of several trips to Project Bluebook, Ive had an opportunity to examine quite carefully and in detail the types of reports that are made by Bluebook personnel. In most cases, I have found that there's almost no correlation between so-called "evaluations and explanations" that are made by Bluebook and the facts of the case.. There are hundreds of good cases in the Air Force files that should have led to top-level scientific scrutiny of this problem, years ago, yet these cases have been swept under the rug in a most disturbing way by Project Bluebook investigators and their consultants."

Dr James McDonald -Senior Physicist at the Institute for Atmospheric Physics and Professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona.


Archive:

'UFO Symposium Casefiles'

Bluebook's chief scientific consultant Dr J. Allen Hynek also stated in a 1968 letter that the project had conducted 'virtually no dialogue' with the outside scientific world and employed statistical methods that were 'nothing less than a travesty' - he also shares his thoughts below on Bluebook's debunking agenda and describes how they 'jumped handsprings' to keep the hot reports away from the public:

• "When Major Quintanilla came in, the flag of the utter nonsense school was flying at its highest on the mast. Now he had a certain Sgt. Moody assisting him...Moody epitomized the conviction-before-trial method. Anything that he didn't understand or didn't like was immediately put into the psychological category, which meant "crackpot." He would not ever say that the person who reported a case was a fairly respectable person, maybe we should look into it, or maybe we should find out. He was also the master of the possible: possible balloon, possible aircraft, possible birds, which then became, by his own hand (and I argued with him violently at times), the probable; he said, well, we have no category "possible" aircraft. It is therefore either unidentified or aircraft. Well, it is more likely aircraft; therefore it is aircraft.... An "unidentified" to Moody was not a challenge for further research. To have it remain unidentified was a blot... and he did everything to remove it. He went back to cases from Captain Gregory's days and way back in Ruppelt's days and redid the files. A lot that were unidentified in those days he "identified" years and years later".

Dr J Allen Hynek, chief scientific consultant for Air Force investigations of UFOs from 1948 until 1969 (Projects Sign, Grudge and Blue Book).


E-book:

'The UFO Experience : A Scientific Inquiry'

[Maxmars]

I accept the position that we are (pardon me,) were, being actively being deceived insofar as UFOs were concerned (and more) but it appears that the facts, indisputable as they are, don't phase the public much.  It's not in my nature to simply accept and dismiss this fact as a memorable feature in the context of discussions regarding UFOs.  Which leads me to admit, these are fairly smart architects of misinformation... but even they must have known that old truism, "You can fool all the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Eventually patterns of behavior, and perennial human error will always expose a lie... so they changed tactics... now they tell you "all about UFOs"... and we just have to believe them, right? 

This thread features classic material... I'm kind of partial to that 

[Karl12]

Dr Jacques Vallee also doesn't sound too impressed in this clip and labels some Bluebook explanations 'completely ridiculous'.









See 1:05

• "Governments took notice, organizing task forces, encouraging secret briefings and study groups, funding classified research and all the time denying before the public that any of the phenomena might be real. The major revelation of these Diaries may be the demonstration of how the scientific community was misled by the government, how the best data were kept hidden, and how the public record was shamelessly manipulated."

Dr. Jacques Vallee, astrophysicist, computer scientist, 1992.


E-book:

'Forbidden Science'

Not to be outdone Richard Dolan also brings up some really interesting government documents in this vid including one from 1955 which discusses the need for 'reducing the number of Bluebook unknowns to a bare minimum'.







See 6:00

Blue Book Cooks Its Books.


What was Blue Book in 1955?

It was an organization that..

(1) claimed to be the sole repository of military UFO reports, but was not;

(2) was under orders to use any means necessary to identify UFOs as conventional objects, regardless of how strained the explanation became;

(3) intentionally misled the public with meaningless and even fictitious statistics; and

(4) had a barely breathing investigative capability.

The conclusion is self-evident: Blue Book was the mask worn by the Air Force for public viewing. Its UFO reports and evaluations – intellectually dishonest in the extreme – can therefore have no scientific value whatsoever. The fact that the U.S. military and other official sources continue to use them tells us more about the organizations than it does about UFOs.


E-book:

'UFOs And The National Security State'

[Karl12]

I accept the position that we are (pardon me,) were, being actively being deceived insofar as UFOs were concerned (and more) but it appears that the facts, indisputable as they are, don't phase the public much.  It's not in my nature to simply accept and dismiss this fact as a memorable feature in the context of discussions regarding UFOs.  Which leads me to admit, these are fairly smart architects of misinformation... but even they must have known that old truism, "You can fool all the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Eventually patterns of behavior, and perennial human error will always expose a lie... so they changed tactics... now they tell you "all about UFOs"... and we just have to believe them, right?

Ha well said mate and despite the programmed apathy (and socially engineered seven second attention spans) found in certain sections of society I'm sure the vast majority of folks don't appreciate being lied to and can clearly see through all the bullshit.

Hilarious that an attempt has been made to shift UFO gears and the one organisation directly responsible for the majority of deceit and deception over the years (the CIA) now suddenly wants everyone to blindly trust them and unquestionably believe what their operatives have to say lol.

Definitely seems to be a lot of hijacking and 'co-opting' going on and am sure certain groups would prefer that everyone just forgot about the last eight decades of UFO research.

[Karl12]

Examples of 'Official BS UFO Explanations':









• Minot AFB UFO, October 24th, 1968.

Pretty crazy UFO activity from Minot Air Force base in 1968, the unknown object was confirmed on ground and air radar and witnessed by several (separately located) military personnel - testimony found in video.





See 36:10

What we have, then, was a group of sightings made by men on the ground, at the missile sites scattered around the base. There was radar sightings from ground and weather's radar. There were visual sightings from the crew of the B-52, and an airborne radar sighting where the target traveled at 3,000 miles per hour. Scope photographs were taken. There were sightings made by S.Sgt. Bond the FSC at Nov. Flight, S.Sgt. Smith at Oscar-1, Julelt, and Mike Flight Team and a number of men in widely scattered locations. The object landed at location AA-43 and the entire observation lasted for 45 minutes. Fourteen other people in separate locations also reported the UFO.

Link

Main Research Site:

The Minot AFB UFO Case | 24 OCTOBER 1968 | Documents | Interviews | Analysis

Bluebook Explanation:


'Twinkling stars'

The sighting was officially explained by on November 13, by Lt. Col. Hector Quintanilla who wrote, "The following conclusions have been reached after a thorough study of the data submitted to Foreign Technology Division. The ground visual sightings appear to be of the star Sirius and the B-52, which was flying in the area.

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[Karl12]

• Edwards AFB, October 7th, 1965.


Another very strange radar/visual from Edwards Air Force base in 1965 involving several UFOs over a secure military runway - the objects were witnessed by several military personnel, confirmed by multiple radar and a fighter jet was scrambled to go after them.






Francis Ridge:






Air Traffic Controller Chuck Sorrels:

• "I spotted a group of luminous objects in the air above and around Edwards Air Force Base. They had a flashing red light on the bottom, with a green, glowing light above the red.They also sometimes flashed or glowed a white light above the green light. The sightings lasted until about daylight, 5:30 or six a.m. At first I sighted one object, which was larger and brighter than the rest. At one point there were seven objects visible at the same time. The objects would be stationary for a period of time and then move very fast to another location and appeared to be able to climb straight up in short order.. Good eyesight and my experience as an air traffic controller made it plain to me that these luminous objects were not planes, helicopters, stars, satellites, weather balloons or any other known aerial object. These were objects out of the normal, from their appearance and flight characteristics. I reported these sightings to base operations and the Los Angeles Air Defense Sector. The objects were also seen by at least five other people on Edwards Air Force Base. They were also seen by George Air Force Base tower and were showing up on radar in at least four different radar sight locations"

Link

Casefile:

NICAP Link

PDF File:

Bluebook Documents (pdf)

Bluebook Explanation:

'Stars and atmospheric anomalies'

[Karl12]

• Portage County Police UFO Chase, April 17th, 1966.



Multiple police officer/civilian witness close range UFO case involving an unknown object 'putting out light beams', performing highly unusual flight characteristics and emitting a buzzing or humming noise which went up in pitch as the object accelerated.

Initial sightings resulted in a 86 mile car chase and probably one of the most controversial explanations (and lazy investigations) in Bluebook history.











Police Officer Testimony:

"I always look behind me so no one can come up behind me. And when I looked in this wooded area behind us, I saw this thing.... As it came over the trees, I looked at Barney and he was still watching the car.. and he didn't say nothing and the thing kept getting brighter and the area started to get light..."

The object was about fifty feet in diameter, with a bright, well-defined light beam shining down from the bottom.

"When Barney Neff saw the object he just stood there with his mouth open for a minute as bright as it was, and he looked down. And I started looking down and I looked at my hands and my clothes weren't burning or anything, when it stopped right over on top of us. The only thing, the only sound in the whole area was a hum... like a transformer being loaded or an overloaded transformer when it changes..."

They broke for their patrol car. Once safely inside, Spaur radioed a quick report. A Sergeant Schoenfelt told them to follow the object. They chased the object at speeds of up to 100 mph as it headed east, constantly reporting their position on the radio to allow other officers to follow the chase.

As the object moved to the east, Officer H. Wayne Huston of East Palestine, Ohio joined in the chase. He had been listening to the radio reports, and when he saw the object pass overhead with Spaur and Neff close behind, he took off in pursuit.

The chase continued across the state line into Pennsylvania, and as Spaur's vehicle got low on gas, he pulled over to enlist the aid of a Conway, Pennsylvania officer. When Spaur stopped, so did the object. They phoned the Air Force from Conway, and minutes later over the radio they heard that jet fighters were being scrambled to intercept the object. The object had other plans, however, and it suddenly shot straight up and vanished.

Frank Panzenella, a Conway, PA police officer said:

"The object was the shape of half a football, was very bright and about 25 to 35 feet in diameter.... The object continued to go upward until it got as small as a ballpoint pen. Relative to the moon, the object was quite distant and to the left of the moon. We all four watched the object shoot straight up and disappear."

Spaur stated:

"Somebody had control over it. It wasn't just an object floating around. It can manoeuver."

Link / Police reports: 1 / 2 / 3

Bluebook Explanation

'Venus'

The official Air Force evaluation has concluded that the case is explained "by an astronomical phenomenon." When asked for details, they explained that the officers had seen a satellite at first, and then had chased the planet Venus for forty-odd miles. Absolutely none of the witness and investigators could agree with this perfectly ridiculous explanation..

The investigation by Major Quintanilla actually consisted in a two minutes and a half phone call to the sole Dale Spaur, starting with this question: "tell me about this mirage you saw."

Police response:

• "I've seen Venus many times, but I never saw Venus 50 feet above a road and moving from side to side like this was..."

Portage County Sheriff Ross Dustman to United Press International.

[Karl12]

• The Red Bluff UFO incident - August 13th, 1960.


Another very interesting multiple police officer/civilian witness close range UFO case in which officers described an elliptical glowing red object (sketch) 'sweeping the area with a huge red light' and performing aerial feats that were 'actually unbelievable' - electromagnetic interference effects also reported.






From 16:00

California Highway Patrol Officers Charles A. Carson and Stanley Scott were on patrol when they sighted what they thought was an airliner about to crash. When the UFO had descended to about 100 or 200 feet altitude it suddenly reversed direction and climbed to 500 ft. Description: round or oblong surrounded by a glow (color not mentioned) and having definite red lights at each end. They continued to watch the UFO as it performed "unbelievable" aerial feats.

Police Testimony:

Officers Charles A. Carson and Stanley Scott of the California Highway Patrol were on patrol near Red Bluff, California, at about 11:50 p.m., when they saw a large illuminated object apparently falling from the sky. Thinking it was an airliner crashing, they quickly stopped and leaped out of the patrol car to get a position fix.

"The first thing we noticed was an absolute silence,"

Carson stated in his official report.

"We continued to watch until the object was probably within 100 feet to 200 feet off the ground, when it suddenly reversed completely, at high speed, and gained approximately 500 feet altitude. There the object stopped."

It was an oblong or elliptical object with a definite red light at each extremity. In between the red lights, about five white lights could be seen occasionally.

"As we watched the object moved again and performed aerial feats that were actually unbelievable... The object was capable of moving in any direction. Up and down. Back and forth... It moved at high (extremely) speeds and several times we watched it change directions or reverse itself while moving at unbelievable speeds."

Twice the object came directly toward them; each time it turned and "swept the area with a huge red light.

"Officer Scott turned the red light on the patrol vehicle towards the object, and it immediately went away from us. We observed the object use the red beam approximately 6 or 7 times, sweeping the sky and ground areas."

When the object was closest to them, they experienced radio interference.

As the object began moving off to the east, they attempted to follow it. At a point near the Vina Plains Fire Station they saw a second similar object approach the first. "Both stopped, remaining in that position for some time, occasionally emitting the red beam." Both then disappeared to the east.

Carson and Scott talked with several deputies at the Tehama County Sheriff's office who had also seen the UFO and observed the same maneuvers. The sighting lasted a little over two hours. The UFO was estimated to be about 150 feet in its longest dimension.

Casefile:

NICAP Case Directory

PDF File:

UFOs: Greatest Scientific Problem of Our Times? - Dr James Edward McDonald

Bluebook Explanation

'Refraction of Mars, Aldebaran and Betelgeuse'

"The findings are that the individuals concerned witnessed a refraction of the planet Mars and the bright stars Aldebaran and Betelgeux. . . Temperature inversions contributed to the phenomena as the planet Mars was quite low in the skies and the inversion caused it to be projected upward."

Rebuttal:

The Bluebook explanation that came out after a few days attributed this very detailed, close range sighting of a large object, seen by two experienced officers to "refraction of the planet Mars and the two bright stars Aldebaran and Betelgeuse".

NICAP referred the question to one of their astronomical advisors, who found that none of these three celestial objects were even in the California skies at that time. Bluebook then changed the explanation to read Mars and Capella. Capella, the only one of those celestial bodies that was even in the sky at 2300, was nowhere near the location of the sighted object, and could not, of course, give the impression of the various movements clearly described by the officers.

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[Karl12]

• Griffiss AFB, April 8th, 1956.

Griffiss Air Force Base advises fully loaded commercial airliner to 'abandon landing' and follow UFO - pilots estimate the object's speed at 800 -1000 MPH and witness it 'zoom through a 90 degree arc from the wingtip to dead ahead'. Control tower operators also report seeing a silhouette of the object and other separately located individuals witness the UFO from the ground.

AF "Requests" Plane Loaded With Passengers To Chase UFO - April 8, 1956, New York State


10:15 p.m. (EST) Capt. Raymond E. Ryan, First Officer William Neff, flight attendant Phyllis Reynolds, and passengers, took off in an airliner from Albany heading N then nearly due W (about 280° True) at 260 mph and 6,000 ft N of Schenectady when a brilliant white light about 2-3 miles away was spotted about 90° to the left appearing like an airliner heading in to land at Albany.

The white light moved about 90° to dead ahead position about 8-10 miles away at high speed estimated at about 800-1,000 mph where it changed color to orange and seemed to block the airliner’s path or risk collision, disappeared briefly, reappeared as an orange light again but standing still ahead of the airliner to the W.

Airliner contacted Griffiss AFB, Rome, NY, where controllers asked pilot to turn lights off and on to help identify aircraft and was told airliner was seen and the orange UFO to the S.
Airliner was ordered to maintain course to follow the UFO to the W, skipping its scheduled landing at Syracuse after nearly 30 mins of following the object. Promised fighter jet interception was not seen. Object disappeared at high speed to the NW (or N) towards Oswego, NY.

Newsclippings: 1 / 2

Television Interview with pilots:

Commercial Plane Follows UFO.

April 8, 1956: A very brilliant light was followed across New York State by an American Airlines plane. The pilots were Capt. Raymond Ryan and First Officer William Neff. The chase was described by radio to Air Force and civilian control tower operators. The following account of the sighting is taken from a tape-recorded interview program, "Meet the Millers," On WBEN TV, Buffalo, New York, April 16, 1956

Transcript

Bluebook Explanation

'Venus'

Re: April 8, 1956 sighting by Capt. Raymond Ryan, American Airlines pilot:

"The Air Force concluded that the object viewed during this sighting was the planet Venus."

Link

[Karl12]

• Levelland UFO wave - 2nd / 3rd November, 1957.


Extremely strange UFO 'flap' of flying egg shaped objects (also some ellipsoid/torpedo shaped) reported in various separate locations around Levelland, Texas - close range witnesses also reported electromagnetic interference effects on motor vehicles.

The most striking feature of this sighting wave was the concentration of "electromagnetic effect" cases around the west Texas town of Levelland. There were at least eight such reports in the space of 2.5 hours in an area to the west, north and east of Levelland:

At 10:30 p.m. came the report from truck driver Pedro Saucedo, who described seeing a blue torpedo-shaped object with yellow flame and white smoke coming out of its rear. He estimated it was 200 feet (60 meters) long and 6 feet (2 meters) wide. His truck lights and engine failed while the UFO was in view; after it disappeared, his lights worked perfectly, and he was able to re-start the engine.

At Pettit, Texas, 10 miles (16 km) to the northwest, two grain combines failed as a UFO flew past: "shortly before midnight, Jim Wheeler reported seeing a large 200 feet (60 meters) elliptical object on the road; as he drove toward it, his car lights and engine failed. The UFO rose and flew off, and when it blinked off, his lights came back on and he was able to re-start his engine."

At the same time, Jose Alvarez's car lights and engine died when he saw a glowing, 200 feet (60 meters) UFO nearby. After the object flew away, his lights came back on and he was able to re-start his engine.

At about 12:05am, college student Newell Wright's car lights and engine failed. He got out to fix them, looked up and saw a glowing, bluish-green, flat-bottomed, oval object on the highway. The object was in sight for four or five minutes. During that time, Wright tried to start his engine, and while the starter made contact, the motor was unaffected. The object disappeared, straight up, and immediately the car lights came back on, the engine started, and then operated perfectly...

By 01:30am, Hockley County Sheriff Weir Clem had heard so many reports that he decided to see for himself. He drove out with a deputy sheriff, and saw a large oval red light, though he did not experience electrical system problems. Years later he said:"The object was shaped like a huge football and had bright white lights. The blinding lights flashed on, it went right over the car and was gone. No living human being could believe how fast it traveled. The whole thing was as bright as day; it lit up the whole area."

CBS Newscast of November 3, 1957

Table Summary

Bluebook Explanation

'Electrical storm'

Project Blue Book sent a single investigator to Levelland to check the reports. His explanation, accepted as the official Air Force conclusion, was that:

"... the major cause for the Levelland case was a severe electrical storm. The storm stimulated the populace into a high level of excitement.

Rebuttal:

Atmospheric physicist Dr. James McDonald completed a study and determined that there had been no storm in the area, and thus no source of excessive moisture to interfere with the automobiles' electrical systems:

"In a two-hour period near midnight, November 2-3, 1957, nine different vehicles all exhibited ignition failures, and many suffered headlight failures as objects described as about 100-200 ft long, glowing with a general reddish or bluish glow, were encountered on roads in the vicinity of the small community of Levelland, Tex.

This series of incidents became national headline news until officially explained in terms of ball lightning and wet ignitions. However, on checking weather data, I found that there were no thunderstorms anywhere close to Levelland that night, and there was no rain capable of wetting ignitions. Although I have not located any of the drivers involved, I have interviewed Sheriff Weir Clem of Levelland and a Levelland newspaperman, both of whom investigated the incidents that night. They confirmed the complete absence of rain or lightning activity. The incidents cannot be regarded as explained."

With no "severe electrical storm" to "stimulate the populace into a high level of excitement," the official explanation falls apart.

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