Breaking News - Air India 171 to London Gatwick crashes in Ahmedabad - 240+ Souls

[PorkChop96]

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Looks like something that should have been getting done every preflight and neglected.....how odd

[Zaphod58]

Looks like something that should have been getting done every preflight and neglected.....how odd

The aircraft has multiple electrical issues on the inbound flight that there’s almost no way could have been corrected in the two hours or so between arrival and departure on the accident flight.

[quintessentone]

Because they don’t give a crap about the cause. It’s a Boeing, that’s all that matters. By the time the investigation is done everyone blaming Boeing iimmediately will have moved on and won’t give a crap about it anymore.

I think it's just another place to look including every other thing they will be looking at. It doesn't matter if Boeing is moving on, their unsafe planes are still in the air.

[putnam6]

I think it's just another place to look including every other thing they will be looking at. It doesn't matter if Boeing is moving on, their unsafe planes are still in the air.

The 787's safety record had been strong before yesterday's Air India fatal crash, with no fatalities in over 5 million flights.



 The Boeing 787 fleet has accumulated approximately 30 million flight hours as of mid-June 2025, based on estimates from Boeing and posts found on X.
Regarding accidents, the 787 has been involved in eight accidents and incidents as of June 2025, including one fatal hull loss. The first fatal crash occurred on June 12, 2025, involving Air India Flight 171, a 787-8 that crashed shortly after takeoff from Ahmedabad, India, killing 241 of the 242 people on board. Other notable incidents include:

• 2013: The global 787 fleet was grounded for over three months due to lithium-ion battery fires on two aircraft, leading to design changes.
  
• July 2013: An empty Ethiopian Airlines 787 caught fire at Heathrow Airport due to a short-circuit in an Emergency Locator Transmitter.
  
• March 2024: LATAM Airlines Flight 800, a 787-9, experienced a sudden mid-air drop, injuring 50 passengers. The incident was linked to an involuntary pilot seat movement.
  

The 787's safety record had been strong prior to the 2025 fatal crash, with no fatalities in over 5 million flights.

[quintessentone]

The 787's safety record had been strong before yesterday's Air India fatal crash, with no fatalities in over 5 million flights.



 The Boeing 787 fleet has accumulated approximately 30 million flight hours as of mid-June 2025, based on estimates from Boeing and posts found on X.
Regarding accidents, the 787 has been involved in eight accidents and incidents as of June 2025, including one fatal hull loss. The first fatal crash occurred on June 12, 2025, involving Air India Flight 171, a 787-8 that crashed shortly after takeoff from Ahmedabad, India, killing 241 of the 242 people on board. Other notable incidents include:

• 2013: The global 787 fleet was grounded for over three months due to lithium-ion battery fires on two aircraft, leading to design changes.
  
• July 2013: An empty Ethiopian Airlines 787 caught fire at Heathrow Airport due to a short-circuit in an Emergency Locator Transmitter.
  
• March 2024: LATAM Airlines Flight 800, a 787-9, experienced a sudden mid-air drop, injuring 50 passengers. The incident was linked to an involuntary pilot seat movement.
  

The 787's safety record had been strong prior to the 2025 fatal crash, with no fatalities in over 5 million flights.

I am listening to Boeing engineers who know what they are talking about when these now aging planes were built with their business mission of "profit over safety". Also Air India feels they need to investigate Boeing's manufacturing of these planes as well as in other areas. We shall see what we shall see after all the investigations are completed.

[Zaphod58]

I am listening to Boeing engineers who know what they are talking about when these now aging planes were built with their business mission of "profit over safety". Also Air India feels they need to investigate Boeing's manufacturing of these planes as well as in other areas. We shall see what we shall see after all the investigations are completed.

And thirty million flight hours before the first crash means absolutely nothing because a possibly disgruntled engineer says differently.

[Zaphod58]

I think it's just another place to look including every other thing they will be looking at. It doesn't matter if Boeing is moving on, their unsafe planes are still in the air.

Yeah, Boeing planes are just falling out of the sky and have so many accidents every day. They’re so unsafe it isn’t funny.

[putnam6]

I am listening to Boeing engineers who know what they are talking about when these now aging planes were built with their business mission of "profit over safety". Also Air India feels they need to investigate Boeing's manufacturing of these planes as well as in other areas. We shall see what we shall see after all the investigations are completed.

None of that invalidates the 787 fleet's superior flight record 

 The Boeing 787’s safety record is exceptional compared to most Boeing models, with a lower fatal accident rate than the 737 and 777, and only outdone by the niche 717 and limited-use 747-8.

Its single fatal crash in 2025 is a blemish but doesn’t negate 14 years of reliability.

The 737, particularly the MAX, lags far behind due to systemic issues, while the 777 and 747-8 are closer peers but lack the 787’s near-perfect early record.

[rickymouse]

From what I have been reading late last night and today, it seems that there was a problem with some of the systems in it's flight right before this one.  It does not seem to be Boeing's problem, it appears to be a problem with maintenance releasing the jet to be used when known problems were not repaired from the previous flight.  Stuff wears out, the jet should have had a thorough inspection before being let fly after that previous flight issue. 

I am guessing that Boeing will not be found to be at fault. A lot of BS has been said about this aircraft's safety on the internet that is not true.  It actually has a pretty decent safety record, but things wear out or get damaged, that would not be Boeing's fault.  That jet should have had a better inspection to try to find the cause of the problem....if they could not find it, sometimes they will take the aircraft for a test flight without any passengers aboard.  I know some people who worked at the local airport maintenance facility that work on smaller jets, they will take it for a quick spin without passengers if they cannot find the issue.  Of course here, they do not have to worry about it falling on anything, just the person flying it is at risk and maybe one other person who is doing testing and diagnosis.  We are in a remote area, I do not know how that works in other more populated areas.  Also, the jets they work on here are mostly smaller jets, a jet like that won't probably fit in their buildings to work on it.

[KKLoco]

So we have electrical issues in the back of the plane, and thrust issues in the front of the plane. Sounds like it's a VFSG problem. Which is basically an alternator for the Dreamliner.