Breaking News - Air India 171 to London Gatwick crashes in Ahmedabad - 240+ Souls

[Bilbous72]

I’m starting to think they had a single engine failure post V1, and misidentified the engine and shut the good one down, or were in the process of shutting it down. If you watch the take off video, from near the runway, just after they get airborne the aircraft suddenly yaws right. The wind was only 7 knots, and shouldn’t have caused them to yaw. Losing an engine would. The crew was already pretty busy, and may have grabbed the wrong throttle, or misidentified the engine with the problem.

Wouldn't be the first time a flight crew has shut down the wrong engine. BMA flight 092 did similar but they had some altitude before they did it, still ended up killing 47 of the 126 souls on board.

[Zaphod58]

Wouldn't be the first time a flight crew has shut down the wrong engine. BMA flight 092 did similar but they had some altitude before they did it, still ended up killing 47 of the 126 souls on board.

There was a cargo 737-200 in Honolulu a few years ago that lost an engine on take off. The first officer identified the correct engine, the Captain repeated the correct engine, then they shut down the wrong engine. They tried to come back around and ended up putting it in the water just off shore.

[quintessentone]

Air Travel Panic Grows.




Other Dreamliner issues cropping up now.

Multiple Mid-Air Glitches Reported In Boeing Dreamliner Fleet After Ahmedabad Crash | India Today

"Boeing Dreamliner Turns Back After Pilot Finds Alarming Issue Mid-Flight"

Boeing Dreamliner Turns Back After Pilot Finds Alarming Issue Mid-Flight

"All 787 Dreamliners should be grounded, Boeing whistleblower says"

All 787 Dreamliners should be grounded, Boeing whistleblower says - National | Globalnews.ca

[Zaphod58]

Air Travel Panic Grows.

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ky_qtGFv84&t=100s]

Other Dreamliner issues cropping up now.

Multiple Mid-Air Glitches Reported In Boeing Dreamliner Fleet After Ahmedabad Crash | India Today

"Boeing Dreamliner Turns Back After Pilot Finds Alarming Issue Mid-Flight"

Boeing Dreamliner Turns Back After Pilot Finds Alarming Issue Mid-Flight

"All 787 Dreamliners should be grounded, Boeing whistleblower says"

All 787 Dreamliners should be grounded, Boeing whistleblower says - National | Globalnews.ca

There have always been issues with 787s, just like with any other plane flying. There is zero evidence that the issues are getting worse.

[Zaphod58]

Air India 315 out of Hong Kong had to return to Hong Kong after receiving a right engine fuel filter warning. Fuel system contamination/blockage is one possible cause of the crash last week.

[quintessentone]

Air India 315 out of Hong Kong had to return to Hong Kong after receiving a right engine fuel filter warning. Fuel system contamination/blockage is one possible cause of the crash last week.

The airport fueling system had filters (to filter out water and other contaminants) and sensors, so is that really a possible cause to be considered?

[Zaphod58]

The airport fueling system had filters (to filter out water and other contaminants) and sensors, so is that really a possible cause to be considered?

Of course it is. Fuel contamination is a very real and very serious problem that can happen despite having filters through the entire system. There are biocides that are used to clean trucks and tanks that can get through if not cleaned well enough. Algae that grows in tanks that can get through when it’s small enough. Or any number of things that can contaminate or block the fuel system.

[quintessentone]

Of course it is. Fuel contamination is a very real and very serious problem that can happen despite having filters through the entire system. There are biocides that are used to clean trucks and tanks that can get through if not cleaned well enough. Algae that grows in tanks that can get through when it’s small enough. Or any number of things that can contaminate or block the fuel system.

If the filters can stop a drop of water from flowing through, just how can contaminants flow through?

[Zaphod58]

If the filters can stop a drop of water from flowing through, just how can contaminants flow through?

They don’t “stop a drop of water from flowing through”. Why do you think one of the fuel checks is for water? But let’s see, Air India just got hit for allowing three Airbus to fly without having required inspections performed or documented, which isn’t the first time, but they’re the only ones that do that. The airport authority isn’t going to try to cut corners or pencil whip maintenance. That never happens anywhere in the world.

[quintessentone]

They don’t “stop a drop of water from flowing through”. Why do you think one of the fuel checks is for water? But let’s see, Air India just got hit for allowing three Airbus to fly without having required inspections performed or documented, which isn’t the first time, but they’re the only ones that do that. The airport authority isn’t going to try to cut corners or pencil whip maintenance. That never happens anywhere in the world.

Well most of the veteran pilots with actual, extremely long term cockpit experience in various different planes and using airports worldwide that I am listening to, are ruling out fuel contamination.