I have to admit...

I am glad for the differences in how the old world responds to this... as opposed to what the media cabal and think-tanks orchestrated as 'release' here.

"Prestige" is a bitch to deal with...
Money prestige is a dangerous bitch to deal with.

At least you are willing to do something in the spirit of justice.

When your former prince was arrested, and people here were triggered by his release I wondered at the "propriety" in play... it wasn't that his position made it impossible to hold... it was that "holding" him was never the point.   Crimes require responses... he was arrested... that's all that really matters.... 'prestige hit.'

Over here --- well... we're messier juvenile versions of your cultures mixed... and we lack leaders... not politicians, not dandies and fops, not well-trained entertainers,...

we need "leaders"...
and EVERYONE knows that "leaders" are never "politically expedient."

The media industry here is usurped, like everywhere else.
It's the main driver of 'people's attitudes' about each other...

However, at the risk offending... The former prince's dalliances were NEVER secret.
In fact, it must have required an army of support to enable it.

Same goes for the sick bastards over here...
and I would venture to say... there is no 'here' and 'there' with this 'crowd,' they are a wide-spread disease.

This is a centuries-old meat-market.. a front for a select, very darkly-spirited, crowd.

by all means... show us how it's done.

(02-23-2026, 01:25 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Doubt he will get a good night's sleep.

As for Andrew, seems he charged his "massages" to us taxpayers during his role as Trade Envoy.

Other investigations ongoing.

Not looking good for Starmer either.

Oh let's hope they find something on Starmer..... wouldn't that be the cherry on the cake if the police go and arrest him!
Rainbows
Jane

(02-23-2026, 01:29 PM)angelchemuel Wrote: Oh let's hope they find something on Starmer..... wouldn't that be the cherry on the cake if the police go and arrest him!
Rainbows
Jane

Yep.  But I meant his lack of judgement on fast tracking Mandelson 's appointment what with what he knew at the time.

(02-23-2026, 01:29 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I have to admit...

I am glad for the differences in how the old world responds to this... as opposed to what the media cabal and think-tanks orchestrated as 'release' here.

"Prestige" is a bitch to deal with...
Money prestige is a dangerous bitch to deal with.

At least you are willing to do something in the spirit of justice.

When your former prince was arrested, and people here were triggered by his release I wondered at the "propriety" in play... it wasn't that his position made it impossible to hold... it was that "holding" him was never the point.   Crimes require responses... he was arrested... that's all that really matters.... 'prestige hit.'

Over here --- well... we're messier juvenile versions of your cultures mixed... and we lack leaders... not politicians, not dandies and fops, not well-trained entertainers,...

we need "leaders"...
and EVERYONE knows that "leaders" are never "politically expedient."

The media industry here is usurped, like everywhere else.
It's the main driver of 'people's attitudes' about each other...

However, at the risk offending... The former prince's dalliances were NEVER secret.
In fact, it must have required an army of support to enable it.

Same goes for the sick bastards over here...
and I would venture to say... there is no 'here' and 'there' with this 'crowd,' they are a wide-spread disease.

This is a centuries-old meat-market.. a front for a select, very darkly-spirited, crowd.

by all means... show us how it's done.

Happy to oblige.

Over here, no one is above the law, over there, not so much.

(02-23-2026, 01:36 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yep.  But I meant his lack of judgement on fast tracking Mandelson 's appointment what with what he knew at the time.

I know what you meant, but I think there is going to be a more nefarious link between Starmer and Mandy.
Rainbows
Jane
PS...... then there's Gordon Brown busy mouthing off about Andrew and his flights in and out of the UK. Is that a deflection from Brown's association from Mandy? Not saying he's wrong.... but look over there, not over here as it were.

(02-23-2026, 01:42 PM)angelchemuel Wrote: I know what you meant, but I think there is going to be a more nefarious link between Starmer and Mandy.
Rainbows
Jane

One can only hope!

(02-23-2026, 01:45 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: One can only hope!

then there's Gordon Brown busy mouthing off about Andrew and his flights in and out of the UK. Is that a deflection from Brown's association from Mandy? Not saying he's wrong.... but look over there, not over here as it were.
Anyway, I'm off to teach. I'll catch up later.
Rainbows
Jane

Another resignation 

"CBS News contributor Peter Attia resigns after Epstein files reveal they were friends. — THR"

https://x.com/NewsWire_US/status/2026010...48156?s=20

Jean Luc Brunel, one of the named co conspirators has been declared dead, 'hanged himself' in a Paris prison cell. Reports are that he was working with investigations.

Mandelson released on bail just after 1am GMT.
So, he's on bail, Andrew isn't.
Rainbows
Jane