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(01-04-2026, 10:49 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Personally I believe that this is all about drugs as the #1 as Trump said. Then oil for Russia, China, Iran and Cuba is #2. The USA doesnt need Venezuela oil but Cuba and China does.

The sanctions against the Chavez and Maduro regimes have allowed China to undercut the price of Venezuelan oil.  The rest of the world will have an easier time bidding for it now.
(01-04-2026, 10:50 AM)quintessentone Wrote: So then are you saying that it would be okay for Ukraine/EU to kidnap Putin and allow Zelensky/EU to temporarily take over Russia's government and oil industry to stabilize that country and/or entire region until the Russian people hold fair and equal elections?

Russia is a nuclear armed state.  Their own people have to deal with their dictators.
(01-04-2026, 10:49 AM)Waterglass Wrote: Personally I believe that this is all about drugs as the #1 as Trump said. Then oil for Russia, China, Iran and Cuba is #2. The USA doesnt need Venezuela oil but Cuba and China does. Cuba controls the Drug Trafficking from South America and into Asia Pacific as Maduro was their puppet like Hugo was for 25 years. Cuba might be next. 

Most Americans are ignorant of whats in play here and the US MSM Networks are either under some  influence by the Drug Cartels or greased by China, or both.  Just like many US Politicians.

The US definitely needs Venezuela oil because, that will disrupt the oil export game to certain countries that only trade with Venezuela and where the US can pick it up to make money for his rich oil barons and himself, as per usual:

"HOUSTON, Aug 7 (Reuters) - U.S. crude oil exports eased in July to the lowest levels in nearly four years on low domestic supplies and as Asian and European buyers found cheaper alternatives, undermining U.S. President Donald Trump's push for more foreign countries to purchase U.S. energy supplies.
The decline in exports from the top global producer underscores the extent to which oil flows are dictated by price and the economics of shipping, even as the Trump administration recently has pushed countries to commit to more U.S. oil purchases as part of trade negotiations."

US crude exports hit four-year low in July on low domestic supplies | Reuters
"The only journey is the one within."
US control of V's oil distribution will now hasten and herald the downfall of Cuba's commie dictatorship.
Watch it all happen very soon.
(01-04-2026, 12:21 AM)titenutz Wrote: *** we have a winner folks !  best comment of the thread by far ! *****
RIP self reflection USA .


Funny the way most Americans view freedom 
As if it's a commodity or a consumerable good
Something we can manufacturer, dress up with a few happy slogans and a  patriotic logo, then export it across the globe

Wrap it up with a pretty bow and hand it out on silver platters courtesy of the US of A
Everyone gets to sing the praises of Democracy

You can call it freedom
You can call it whatever you want
But that's not freedom 

The question that needs to be asked if if Venuzualians had a mostly free country at one time
How did they lose it?

The obvious answer will most likely be that the loss was due to unabated government corruption 
​​​​Unabated because it was tolerated

Something Americans need to consider when it comes to our own government 
How far along are we on that path
And once it's lost
Who will hand freedom back to us
Wrapped up with a pretty, little bow
(01-04-2026, 11:07 AM)IAMTAT Wrote: US control of V's oil distribution will now hasten and herald the downfall of Cuba's commie dictatorship.
Watch it all happen very soon.

Your government, at this point in time, is planning to steal another country's oil resources.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 10:58 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The US definitely needs Venezuela oil because, that will disrupt the oil export game to certain countries that only trade with Venezuela and where the US can pick it up to make money for his rich oil barons and himself, as per usual:

You don't seem to be thinking very hard about applying the left's stock "blood for oil" trope.

What's good about Venezuelans starving and leaving while a dictatorial regime sells drugs to the US and oil to Russia and China at an unfairly low price?
(01-04-2026, 11:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Your government, at this point in time, is planning to steal another country's oil resources.

US companies built and paid for it all...Chavez and Maduro stole it.
(01-04-2026, 11:13 AM)Solvedit Wrote: You don't seem to be thinking very hard about applying the left's stock "blood for oil" trope.

What's good about Venezuelans starving and leaving while a dictatorial regime sells drugs to the US and oil to Russia and China at an unfairly low price?

Your regime does not care a hoot for the starving people, they don't even care for the hungry people in your own country (2025: foodbanks operating in 'disaster response mode') so don't peddle that BS.

The sale of drugs from Venezuela to the US is miniscule, it's all a lie, most of the drugs come through Mexico and Columbia. It's all about the oil.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 11:16 AM)IAMTAT Wrote: US companies built and paid for it all...Chavez and Maduro stole it.

That's a risk companies take. Not all investments pay off (though they likely did still profit).

I don't see why American people have to backstop corporations. That is socialism.



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