president Maduro captured after US strikes

[Waterglass]

So don't lecture me on pushing a "barrel of sheet down the street"

I have a memory span longer than a goldfish.

 All about oil? NO not really its all about stopping the flow and trafficking of drugs into the USA and world. Oil is #2 to regenerate that country and pay past USA debts for nationalizing USA companies. Putin pulled that same sheet. I will lecture you as you writing suggests support to criminals, drug cartels, evil and dont seem to have an issue with it until orange man goes in to do something.  

I also have a memory span lomger than a Goldfish. Heres another story:

https://www.aei.org/articles/obama-who-i...ar-powers/ 


So Obama invaided. Do you know why? The Great Man Made River Project. He blew it all up. Iran now is out of water! 

Libya's Great Man-Made River (GMMR) is the world's largest irrigation project, a vast underground pipeline network bringing fossil water from desert aquifers in the south to coastal cities like Tripoli and Benghazi for agriculture and drinking, envisioned by Muammar Gaddafi as the "Eighth Wonder of the World" but facing challenges like incomplete phases, conflict damage, and long-term sustainability concerns due to reliance on non-renewable resources. 

[Solvedit]

You aren't really buying that lie are you?

Trump explaining why he pardoned Hernandez:

"President Donald Trump pardoned Juan Orlando Hernández, the former president of Honduras, on Dec. 1, claiming without evidence that his prosecution had been a “setup” by the Biden administration and that Hernández was targeted because he was president of a country where drug cartels operated.
 “If somebody sells drugs in that country, that doesn’t mean you arrest the president and put him in jail for the rest of his life,” Trump said in explaining the pardon."

There were issues besides drugs which led to sanctioning the Chavez and Maduro regimes, and perhaps the Hernandez regime had not cooperated with the cartels the way Maduro may have been.

Are you saying they won't let Venezuela sell its own oil now?  They will if they are able and the people cooperate to create a stable, democratic regime.

[quintessentone]

There were issues besides drugs with the Chavez and Maduro regimes, and perhaps the Hernandez regime had not cooperated with the cartels the way Maduro may have been.

After all is said and done, the drug cartels in Honduras are still at the top of their game, but because Honduras does not have the oil Trump wants, the people there are not worth helping by sending in special military forces to take over that country. Drug cartels are their own sovereign nation/government it would appear.

"Do drug cartels still exist in honduras
Yes, drug cartels still exist in Honduras. The country is still grappling with the challenges of drug trafficking, with organizations like MS-13 and Barrio 18 exerting territorial control and fueling a homicide rate six times above the global average. Despite the government's enforcement of a state of exception since December 2022, the impact has been minimal, with extortion and territorial control by these gangs remaining intact. The situation is further complicated by the influx of gang members fleeing El Salvador’s crackdown, leading to new waves of violence and territorial disputes. 

rileysentinel.com+1"

[Solvedit]

After all is said and done, the drug cartels in Honduras are still at the top of their game, but because Honduras does not have the oil Trump wants, the people there are not worth helping by sending in special military forces to take over that country. Drug cartels are their own sovereign nation/government it would appear.

What does that have to do with Venezuela?  Suppose their police and military (and private citizens, and food stores, and social services) were well funded by lawful commerce?

[DBCowboy]

Something or nothing.....
On the ticker tape on UK news station "Flight tracker shows US Special Forces heading to EU".
It was up for about half an hour and then taken down. Probably a false claim..... but all the same, no smoke without fire and all that.
Rainbows
Jane

Trump was going to rescue the UK from Starmer.

 

[CriticalStinker]

 All about oil? NO not really its all about stopping the flow and trafficking of drugs into the USA and world. Oil is #2 to regenerate that country and pay past USA debts for nationalizing USA companies. Putin pulled that same sheet. I will lecture you as you writing suggests support to criminals, drug cartels, evil and dont seem to have an issue with it until orange man goes in to do something.  

I also have a memory span lomger than a Goldfish. Heres another story:

https://www.aei.org/articles/obama-who-i...ar-powers/ 


So Obama invaided. Do you know why? The Great Man Made River Project. He blew it all up. Iran now is out of water! 

Libya's Great Man-Made River (GMMR) is the world's largest irrigation project, a vast underground pipeline network bringing fossil water from desert aquifers in the south to coastal cities like Tripoli and Benghazi for agriculture and drinking, envisioned by Muammar Gaddafi as the "Eighth Wonder of the World" but facing challenges like incomplete phases, conflict damage, and long-term sustainability concerns due to reliance on non-renewable resources. 

Oh yea, I forgot. Venezuela might make up 5% of the coke trade... And a lot of that is probably just from random gangs. Acting as if the nation is some sort of clandestine drug kingpen is as laughable as "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud".

If you take the official narrative from the government for regime change, I think you do have a short memory... Or a willfully ignorant one.

[quintessentone]

What does that have to do with Venezuela?  Suppose their police and military were well funded by lawful commerce?

It's all a lie, it is all about oil money.

"China accounted for the largest share of Venezuela's oil exports in July, a staggering 95%, while Western companies, including U.S. supermajor Chevron, were awaiting limited special licenses from the United States to resume operations.
 Last week, the Trump administration granted Chevron a sanctions waiver for its operations in Venezuela, but only on the condition that no money from those operations would go to the Venezuelan government."

Venezuela: Crude oil exports plummet, China becomes its largest customer. What can Chevron do? - Economic Scenarios

[Solvedit]

It's all a lie, it is all about oil money.

Where's the lie?  It looks like they will have oil money or drug money. 

Don't you think a little more oil money might do a stable, democratic regime some good, even if it only comes to them as tax?  

Why let China undercut their oil price by effectively banning the rest of the world from buying it?  While the rest of the country starves and leaves?

[Waterglass]

After all is said and done, the drug cartels in Honduras are still at the top of their game, but because Honduras does not have the oil Trump wants, the people there are not worth helping by sending in special military forces to take over that country. Drug cartels are their own sovereign nation/government it would appear.

Personally I believe that this is all about drugs as the #1 as Trump said. Then oil for Russia, China, Iran and Cuba is #2. The USA doesnt need Venezuela oil but Cuba and China does. Cuba controls the Drug Trafficking from South America and into Asia Pacific as Maduro was their puppet like Hugo was for 25 years. Cuba might be next. 

Most Americans are ignorant of whats in play here and the US MSM Networks are either under some  influence by the Drug Cartels or greased by China, or both.  Just like many US Politicians.

[quintessentone]

Don't you think a little more oil money might do a stable, democratic regime some good?  

Why let China undercut their oil price by effectively banning the rest of the world from buying it?

So then are you saying that it would be okay for Ukraine/EU to kidnap Putin and allow Zelensky/EU to temporarily take over Russia's government and oil industry to stabilize that country and/or entire region until the Russian people hold fair and equal elections?