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(01-03-2026, 02:07 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think Iran is next personally. And I think that one is the one that could really turn into something much worse.


Mexico, Cuba, Colombia, and Iran were all mentioned by name in some capacity today. If there is no real blowback from what they did this morning, I think they will continue testing the waters with all of them. As successful as the operation itself was, it very much feels to me like they are going to keep seeing what they can get away with.
The world reacts:

Team Condemn (Team BRICS)

China:
Quote:“China firmly opposes such hegemonic behaviour by the US, which seriously violates international law, violates Venezuela’s sovereignty, and threatens peace and security in Latin America and the Caribbean. We urge the US to abide by international law and the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and stop violating the sovereignty and security of other countries."

Russia:
Quote:“‍We ⁠reaffirm ​our ‍solidarity with ‍the Venezuelan ⁠people and our ​support ‌for its ‌leadership’s ‌policy ⁠of defending the ‌country’s national ‍interests and ‌sovereignty, ”

Iran:
Quote:“strongly condemns the American military attack on Venezuela and the flagrant violation of the national sovereignty and territorial integrity of the country”.

Brazil:
Quote:“Attacking countries, in flagrant violation of international law, is the first step toward a world of violence, chaos, and instability, where the law of the strongest prevails over multilateralism,”

Colombia
Quote:“The Republic of Colombia reiterates its conviction that peace, respect for international law, and the protection of life and human dignity must prevail over any form of armed confrontation,”

Mexico
Quote:“Mexico condemns the military intervention in Venezuela.”

Uruguay
Quote:“Uruguay rejects, as it always has, military intervention by one country in the territory of another and reaffirms the importance of respecting international law and the UN Charter, in particular the basic principle that States must refrain from resorting to the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations,”

Team F*ck Maduro

The United States
Quote:“Nicolas Maduro has been charged with Narco-Terrorism Conspiracy, Cocaine Importation Conspiracy, Possession of Machineguns and Destructive Devices, and Conspiracy to Possess Machineguns and Destructive Devices against the United States. They will soon face the full wrath of American justice on American soil in American courts,” 

Argentina
Quote:“the collapse of the regime of a dictator that was rigging elections, that in the last election was badly defeated and, despite that, he clinged on to power.”

“That’s why I’d say that today’s new is excellent news for the free world.”

Panama
Quote:“Respect for the popular will shall prevail over hatred and persecution. Venezuela must be free and democratic again.”

“My government reiterates its support for the democratic process and for respecting the legitimate wishes of the Venezuelan people, expressed decisively at the ballot box, where Mr. Edmundo González was elected,”

“Panama will always stand in solidarity with peace and with an orderly and legitimate transition process.”

Ecuador
Quote:“The time is coming for all the narco-Chavista criminals. Their structure will finally collapse across the entire continent,” he wrote on X.

“To Corina Machado, Edmundo Gonzalez, and the Venezuelan people: it is time to reclaim your country. You have an ally in Ecuador.”

Team Moitoring It (From The Fence)

UK
Quote:“I want to establish the facts first. I want to speak to President Trump. I want to speak to allies. I can be absolutely clear that we were not involved … and I always say and believe we should all uphold international law,” 

EU
Quote:“The EU is closely monitoring the situation in Venezuela,”

Germany
Quote:“monitoring the situation in Venezuela very closely and following the latest reports with great concern.”

Team Not getting into it

Trinidad and Tobago
Quote:“Earlier this morning, Saturday 3rd January 2026, the United States commenced military operations within the territory of Venezuela. Trinidad and Tobago is NOT a participant in any of these ongoing military operations. Trinidad and Tobago continues to maintain peaceful relations with the people of Venezuela,”
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(01-03-2026, 01:59 PM)Lrrr Wrote: No. It's that this was an action with long-term consequences and parallels to previous occupations that have historically panned out awfully. Again, the presser immediately shifted to "we will run the country and pump oil". If you believe the "the money is going back into Venezuela" line, I have a memecoin to sell you.



That sounds an awful lot like a decades long foreign country destabilization effort based on sending millions of pounds of drugs and weapons, and narcoterrorists to sell them, into a foreign country.
I guess arresting some dude in another country crosses some line though. LoL
(01-03-2026, 10:42 AM)titenutz Wrote: sounds logical to me.Don't you agree with that concept ?


The concept yes, but not if its a narcostate dictatorship that made a quarter of its population flee. And coming from Putin is a bit ironic dont you think?
(01-03-2026, 02:26 PM)Vermilion Wrote: That sounds an awful lot like a decades long foreign country destabilization effort based on sending millions of pounds of drugs and weapons, and narcoterrorists to sell them, into a foreign country.
I guess arresting some dude in another country crosses some line though. LoL


It's wild that you believe that talking point when UN global drug reports don't even list Venezuela as a top source of drugs in the US. The admin should add a "numbers never before seen in history" to make it even more believable.
(01-03-2026, 02:21 PM)Lrrr Wrote: Mexico, Cuba, Colombia, and Iran were all mentioned by name in some capacity today. If there is no real blowback from what they did this morning, I think they will continue testing the waters with all of them. As successful as the operation itself was, it very much feels to me like they are going to keep seeing what they can get away with.



The Athenians settled this 2400 years ago.
People whining “it’s not fair” might want to dust off their Thucydides.

“Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
(01-03-2026, 02:07 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think Iran is next personally. And I think that one is the one that could really turn into something much worse.

Iran is mostly a self inflicted wound.

It would make sense for America to try and step in, and spread democracy.

After all, we still owe Iran one for Iraq.
(01-03-2026, 02:20 PM)rickymouse Wrote: If they get that corrupt leader out of power and straighten up their government, maybe those refugees might want to go back to their country.  I would not want to live in a country that was under a dictator like him.  Maduro was even listed as a Narco-terrorist back in 2020 under the Biden administration.

Biden did nothing to try to stop him from sending drugs into this country.  We do not want all our young to get addicted to drugs in this country, so why not stop it from coming in...stop the leader of that country and the cartel from profiting off of the drug smuggling.

During the Biden administration New York courts went after a leader of a different country who was far from as bad as this guy is.  They stuck him in Prison.  Now I think Trump pardoned that guy for problems in the trial from what I hear, he was supposedly not directly involved like Maduro is.  So it was an overreach in that conviction, but in this case, Maduro is much worse than the other guy was because he is directly involved with the Cartel's corruption from what I have read, along with other illegal operations.  A lot of people left Venezuela because of this leaders corruption and maybe we can help make their country better again.

I think that Europe should actually be involved in the trial of Maduro but I feel that because Trump is trying to fix the problem, they will probably let Maduro go free of charges of his crimes because lots of their liberal leaders also have TDS.  Most countries should be happy that a country trying to make their young into drug addicts is taking a leader of a drug supplying country out of power. 

Look at how much cost to all americans is coming from people getting addicted to these hard drugs these days.  Addicts will rob, steal, sell their bodies, and sell drugs to pay for their addiction.  The cost of healthcare for these people also drives up the cost of health insurance for everyone.  And people who get addicted and do not want to do illegal things to feed their addiction...they will commit suicide lots of times and will always feel terrible.  Those who don't care about others, they won't feel bad because they screwed others over, so they won't be as apt to commit suicide.  The good people who made a mistake will be the ones to kill themselves, leaving society even more corrupt here in America.

We need to straighten out the path of America....not just the USA either, we must work together to make sure our young don't turn into drug addicts.  Pot should never have been put into a class even clost to heroin and cocaine and these other drugs like fentanyl.  Sure, for some people Pot can be bad, but the majority it just gives them a buzz and maybe a psychological addiction, not a really dangerous addiction.

Damn good post 

Maduro definitely made it easier for cartels in Venezuela, Columbia at least is seemingly making an effort in drug interdiction

But it wasnt just drugs 

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Quote:Updated 2:23 AM EST, July 3, 2024
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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Two Russian naval ships docked Tuesday in the Venezuelan port of La Guaira after exercises in the Atlantic Ocean that Moscow said were to “show the flag” in remote, important regions, and an initial stopover in Cuba.
The frigate Admiral Gorshkov and the oil tanker Akademik Pashin are part of Russia’s Northern Fleet, which since May 17 has been carrying out tasks that include “guaranteeing the Russian naval presence” in “remote areas of the oceans,” Russian news agency Tass cited Russia’s Ministry of Defense as saying.
The stopover was to last several days and highlight the close ties between Moscow and Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro’s government.
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(01-03-2026, 02:34 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The Athenians settled this 2400 years ago.
People whining “it’s not fair” might want to dust off their Thucydides.

“Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”

Yeah "might makes right" is fascist shit. No wonder you're such a bootlicker. Get lost.
(01-03-2026, 02:37 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Iran is mostly a self inflicted wound.

It would make sense for America to try and step in, and spread democracy.

After all, we still owe Iran one for Iraq.

Eh, Iran was one of the CIA's first regime change operations, that's why they turned on us so hard.

I'm sure they're upset we helped both sides in the Iraq Iran war, but considering we took out the closest power that countered them in the region, I'd say they should be thankful.

I don't think they're really a threat to the US, moreso a menace in the region which we should abandon entirely. What's the benefit of being the worlds biggest oil producer ever if we're still so involved in a region we don't need.



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