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(01-03-2026, 12:49 PM)Lrrr Wrote: The willfull ignorance to genuine enthusiasm I am seeing here in reaction to what is an objectively insane turn of events is blowing my mind. They just held a whole ass press conference about taking over a country and managing their oil reserves. Trump went on Fox before the presser and listed Mexico as a potential target for a similar operation. A serious conversation can't be had with some of you. A place founded on questioning the government and criticizing military operations is populated by bootlickers.
What has been done hasn't worked nes't-ce pas?
So now Trump is doing something different and getting results.
Cartels are bad.
Socialist regimes are bad.
It's a damned site better than empty speeches and lies from all other politicians.
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(01-03-2026, 12:54 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: You were the one who put words in my mouth. You claimed I said we got their oil for free. Not only did I never say that, I said we bought it all and paid more for it than it was worth, both in funding the war, and controlling the oil after while buying it. We got that control because we "liberated" them.
But I do find it ironic someone who started the whole premise on something I didn't say would like to police the accuracy of the statements I did make. Go google it buddy, it's all there. We controlled their oil and imported quite a bit of it.
Or, you can continue to think it had something to do with 9/11 or WMD. Which is funny to me, only one country had direct or indirect involvement in 9/11 (officially), and that's Saudi Arabia. Every admin since then has licked their boots.
You are taking what i said out of context because you can not provide it. I don't need to google what doesn't exist. We are done.
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(01-03-2026, 12:44 PM)Lrrr Wrote: Yes. Believe the most prolific pathological liar of our time. It should go great for you.
What does 8 million people leaving your country during one regime mean?
I'd suggest it means Colombia and Peru are happy AF, Maduro isn't in charge
Quote:Approximately 7.7 to 7.9 million Venezuelans have left the country during Nicolás Maduro's presidency (since 2013), according to the most recent reliable estimates from international organizations.- The mass exodus began accelerating around 2014–2015 amid Venezuela's deepening economic, political, and humanitarian crisis.
- Sources like the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) and the Regional Inter-Agency Coordination Platform for Refugees and Migrants from Venezuela (R4V, co-led by UNHCR and IOM) report nearly 7.9 million Venezuelan refugees and migrants globally as of late 2024–early 2025, with the vast majority (about 85%) in Latin America and the Caribbean.
- Other reports, including from USA for UNHCR and Wikipedia summaries of UN data, cite figures around 7.7 million since 2014, representing about 20–25% of Venezuela's pre-crisis population.
These numbers include refugees, asylum-seekers, and migrants, and may be underestimates since many lack regular status. Emigration peaked in 2018–2019 but has continued, though at a slower pace in recent years. Most have fled to neighboring countries like Colombia (around 2.8 million) and Peru (around 1.7 million).
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Maduro is a bad leader. I am glad he is taken out of power and will be tried for his involvement. His involvement with the Cartel does effect Americans here at home.
If it did not directly effect our people, I would think it was bad, but it does so I am not going to condemn our administration for this. Maybe now someone else less corrupt will be elected in that country...I know they have some decent people there, I also know that we may have to assist the new leader to destroy the drug smugglers there. The leader of that country is not the only bad guy there, but I am sure there are lots of people there that like to see that guy out of power.
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(01-03-2026, 12:59 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: You are taking what i said out of context because you can not provide it. I don't need to google what doesn't exist. We are done.
You tried to quote me with something I didn't say, and now are saying my responses are out of context. Out of context from your made up premise?
Master class buddy.
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(01-03-2026, 12:55 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Hey, don't forget Canada, Greenland and Europe?

Marco Rubio is already going to be president of Venezuela, governor of Cuba, and the Shah of Iran.
The man cannot have enough jobs.
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(01-03-2026, 01:00 PM)rickymouse Wrote: Maduro is a bad leader. I am glad he is taken out of power and will be tried for his involvement. His involvement with the Cartel does effect Americans here at home.
If it did not directly effect our people, I would think it was bad, but it does so I am not going to condemn our administration for this. Maybe now someone else less corrupt will be elected in that country...I know they have some decent people there, I also know that we may have to assist the new leader to destroy the drug smugglers there. The leader of that country is not the only bad guy there, but I am sure there are lots of people there that like to see that guy out of power.
The region needs stability, and China and Russia were becoming too influential
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(01-03-2026, 01:00 PM)Vermilion Wrote: Marco Rubio is already going to be president of Venezuela, governor of Cuba, and the Shah of Iran.
The man cannot have enough jobs.
Oh, after democratic elections?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(01-03-2026, 01:00 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: You tried to quote me with something I didn't say, and now are saying my responses are out of context. Out of context from your made up premise?
Master class buddy.
Oh gee since you want to engage lets engage. Your problem is that I said something about you saying free? Gee golly wizz mister my mistake I apologize silly me, now that you cant use it anymore to not answer the obvious fucking question I asked you, care to answer it now? Where is your evidence we were there for oil?
Let me know if the question goes over your head again ill write it in crayon
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In America, we have about 1 million Venezuelans.
Maybe now they can go back!
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