Who Will be the Next Pope.....

[TzarChasm]

I don't see a new pope making much difference in the affluence or prestige of the Catholic church, it's a vestige of a previous dynasty that endures through tradition and not so much through direct involvement in the affairs of government or business dynamics.

[NoCorruptionAllowed]

I don't see a new pope making much difference in the affluence or prestige of the Catholic church, it's a vestige of a previous dynasty that endures through tradition and not so much through direct involvement in the affairs of government or business dynamics.

I've read some of the new guy Leo's statements about things, and to me it looks like he's naive about world affairs and holding on to the status quo like most all leaders and shills do. Advocating further climate mongering and such for one. He won't be a voice against what globalists are pushing.

[TzarChasm]

I've read some of the new guy Leo's statements about things, and to me it looks like he's naive about world affairs and holding on to the status quo like most all leaders and shills do. Advocating further climate mongering and such for one. He won't be a voice against what globalists are pushing.

His job is making sure the institution remains relevant, compatible and friendly with all the latest in infrastructure and culture. Beyond that, their function is scholastic and their demeanor is passive. In a word, no balls.

[BenJoseph666]

Pope Leo XIV said he is a Roman which might fit Saint Malachy's prophecy which indicates he would be the final pope.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/...ishop.html

 Pope to Rome's mayor: 'For you and with you I am Roman'https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

[Solvedit]

Pope Leo XIV said he is a Roman which might fit Saint Malachy's prophecy which indicates he would be the final pope.

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/...ishop.html

 Pope to Rome's mayor: 'For you and with you I am Roman'https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

I hear there's a thread for that.

[BenJoseph666]

Any catholic male under age 80 can become Pope

[quintessentone]

He speaks the teachings of Jesus and that's all right with me.

[FlyersFan]

He speaks the teachings of Jesus and that's all right with me.

He says abortion is murder and a mortal sin that you go to hell for if you don't repent of it.
He says that the 'trans' fad is demonic, that God made men and women, and that trying to
change that goes against God's plan.
He says that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that homosexuals can't marry
others of the same gender.
He says those things are the words of God. (and yes, there is biblical quotes that can back that up).

Since, in your words, he 'speaks the teachings of Jesus and that's all right with you', then you should listen to him and change your stand on abortion and gays and trans, eh?  According to him God says it's a mortal sin and you go to hell for supporting them.

He also speaks the words of Jesus (Matthew 16:18-19) stating that the Catholic church is the 'right' church, that it's the church God Himself started, and that it has full authority given to it by God Himself.   (Also 1 Acts 16-26 for apostolic succession in the church Jesus founded, the Catholic church)

When is the last time you read the bible?  
Jesus never taught about 'borders' or 'open borders'.  He wasnt' political.
Jesus never taught about climate change either.  
Nor did Jesus teach about illegal criminal immigrants telling countries to welcome the criminal invasion of tens of millions of them to take over the country and bring it down.  (that's not what 'welcome the stranger' means)
Those are all Leos left wing political OPINIONS that do not come from any teaching of Jesus.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

He says abortion is murder and a mortal sin that you go to hell for if you don't repent of it.
He says that the 'trans' fad is demonic, that God made men and women, and that trying to
change that goes against God's plan.
He says that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that homosexuals can't marry
others of the same gender.
He says those things are the words of God. (and yes, there is biblical quotes that can back that up).

Since, in your words, he 'speaks the teachings of Jesus and that's all right with you', then you should listen to him and change your stand on abortion and gays and trans, eh?  According to him God says it's a mortal sin and you go to hell for supporting them.

But hell is such a late addition to the doctrine. 

You can't really say the Sheol mention in Job is hell, because ALL THE DEAD go to sheol.

The concepts of Heaven and Hell didn't develop overnight but evolved over time, with different religions and cultures influencing their development. In early Christianity, the idea of a physical resurrection and life after death was prevalent, not necessarily the concept of Heaven and Hell as separate, eternal realms. The concepts of Heaven and Hell began to take shape more explicitly between the 2nd and 5th centuries AD, influenced by Hellenistic traditions, Greek philosophy, and other non-Christian religious frameworks. Hell, in particular, emerged from Mediterranean cultural exchange. 

And that culture exchange? Apart from THE MANY Greek concepts borrowed, the central framework of Heaven and Hell was essentially ripped off from the Zoroastrians (who defeated Babylon and knocked down the Morning Star).

Heaven and Hell were called Paradise and Duzakh. It was the cultural exchange between Jews returned from exile and Zoroastrian Persians. 

Sheol began to split apart theologically approaching the BC/AD, or at that time called Year 3761. And you gotta get apocryphal. Many of the books expelled from the Bible after THE FIRST EDITION OF THE KJB.  Mostly to streamline the canon, and remove any inconvenient books, that often exposed how the religion morphed its thought over time.

* If you can get 15th century KJB with apocryphal text it's like a holy grail for religious text collectors. Not many remaining. (Less than 200). 

The Aprocryphal text Enoch (written with Both Hellenistic and Persian) influence began to differentiate the concepts by 200 BC.  

I've read MANY bibles. Many versions. Also read the Avesta which is like THE SINGLE MOST influential book on Christianity not named The Torrah.

Early Judaism was NONDUAL. Think more like Hassidic or Kabbalic interpretation today.  God is everything, good, bad, and ugly.

Zoroastrianism injected a heavy dose of Ahura Mazda and Ahriman (duality), and by the time the bulk of the new Testament cannon was written, God and Satan is to Heaven and Hell as Mazda and Ahriman is to Paradise and Duzakh. They even adopted the eternal punishment/reward theme for social behavior regulation.

Judaism had become much more dual, and you can tell with the last written texts before The Christian ones. 

So what are the teachings of Jesus?
What are the teachings of Zoroaster?

I think Christianity is part Judaism, definitely, but the laws are not too Mosaic. Retributive justice was more a Sumerian thing. Instead it's more towards the loving approach that came from Persia and returned them from exile.  Particularly, "forgiveness," "tolerance," and "mercy," some of the highest virtues of Zoroastrianism. 

Plus most of these rainbow sins are laid out in Leviticus, The wackiest book of the Old Testament. And there wasn't even an eternal reward/punishment system yet.  

It's like the new transcutural ideas (of a set afterlife) backtracked and applied themselves to laws written before hell was even a solid concept within the religion's mythos.

[UltraBudgie]

* If you can get 15th century New Testament with apocryphal text it's like a holy grail for religious text collectors. Not many remaining. (Less than 200).

...It's like the new transcutural ideas (of a set afterlife) backtracked and applied themselves to laws written before hell was even a solid concept within the religion's mythos.

1. 1611's are actually pretty easy to find -- well maybe not the original print runs, lol

2. Modern NT infernalism seems to rest on the translation of the Greek αἰώνιος; I'll recommend this book for more nuance, perhaps way more than is truly necessary

(3. As to elided, yeah.)