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#91
(11-08-2025, 08:15 AM)andy06shake Wrote: If you could simply show us all on the doll where the bad teacher touched you....  Saint2


How about you say that to an actual victim.

Quote:HENDERSON, Texas – The Federal Office for Civil Rights (OCR) has found that officials at an East Texas high school were wrong to punish a student who reported she was raped by another student on campus by placing her in a disciplinary program with her attacker.

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/texa...ped-campus

The teachers unions and school districts are politically motivated to try to make certain things go away.

The school system in the US is institutionalised at the expense of students and the teachers that are good.

But you keep buying into a grand illusion.
#92
Quote:Teachers, staff sexually abused and groomed students at Chicago school in ‘colossal failure,’ schools CEO saysBy 
Kelly Bauer, Block Club Chicago
 | November 19, 2021, 10:21am EST

https://www.chalkbeat.org/chicago/2021/1...p-academy/


One has to wonder what the under reporting is on this.  Especially if school districts and the teachers unions work to hide and bury instances of abuse.
#93
Quote:Hundreds of Wisconsin teacher misconduct cases shielded from publicA Cap Times investigation found the state Department of Public Instruction investigated over 200 educators accused of sexual misconduct or grooming, information previously undisclosed.

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2025/10/wisco...struction/

The Catholic Church was rightly called out for this level of institutionalised abuse.  But the grand illusion calls for the widespread coverup of abuse by teachers.  And how the teachers union, school districts, and state officials try to whitewash the record. Why?
#94
(11-08-2025, 07:54 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Strange.  I see meme after meme how work is torture.  Especially low level white collar jobs requiring an education.  

What do you think school is like for a third grader who’s dream is to be a big game hunter that gets loads of BS homework each night.

If a grownup at work maliciously complies or is rebellious, the online community treats them as some sort of antihero.

If a child acts the same way, people call them a Ned?  

How hypocritical.  

If “educated” means using violence to occupy buildings on US college campus.  I’ll pass.


Sounds like a lot of opinion and hyperbole, I'm fairly sure most courts in most Western nations have fairly similar systems and laws regarding violence. The precursor for an act of violence not being a crime is reasoned within the perimeters of self defense or the defence of others.

But yeah, the default position of a human being is one of a hypocrite, in my opinion. That's more about philosophy than anything else though.

I don't follow memes and gen z talking points,  I'm not too sure British society celebrates people going around armed so I'm not too sure who or what  meme is influencing kids to carry axes, going by experience though I'd say it'll be someone in a trusted position they're trying to emulate, an uncle or parent but it could be an Aunt or their Nan... Some people do radicalise the youth online and stuff but a decent parent wouldn't wash their hands of all responsibility, would they?

People talk utter shite online. Maybe everyone should have an ID linked to their online personas so we can stop all the bs talk and trolling, like South park? Point being, most people apparently have discernment, kids not so much, neds have no chance... Hence all the people who believe the dumbest things.

Like I said I didn't finish school so either I failed the system or the system failed me, I've got my own rather strong opinions on education and upbringing. They tend to point towards the need for societal change rather than systemic ones.
#95
(11-08-2025, 09:23 AM)Ray1990 Wrote: Sounds like a lot of opinion and hyperbole,
 
Quote:The Overwhelming Sense of Being a White-Collar Workerhttps://medium.com/@codezone/the-overwhe...44e127da34
2. Long Hours and Burnout:The corporate world is notorious for its long working hours and the expectation of dedication to one’s job. This can lead to burnout, with…
3. Isolation and Loneliness:While white-collar jobs often require teamwork and collaboration, employees can still feel isolated within the confines of their office. The pressure to maintain a professional façade can lead to a sense of loneliness, as personal problems and vulnerabilities are kept hidden.
4. Monotony and Lack of Fulfillment:Repetitive tasks and a lack of meaning in daily work can contribute to an overwhelming sense of boredom and a lack of fulfillment. Many white-collar workers may question the purpose of their work and the impact they are making in the world.
5. Struggles for Work-Life Balance:

Now.  Try volunteering to work with elementary kids that want to be a stylist or a big game hunter where in their minds they think their homework is BS. Try to motivate them to lean and understand the “importance” of the multiple distribution rule when what is important to them after school is to play on the playground.

If a trained white color worker can feel burnout.  What do you think a kid feels in the face of homework when they want to go run around outside.  

What is illusion and what is reality.  Is burnout for a grown adult real?  What does a 4th grader bright and imaginative feel when they want to playout being a stylist and forced to rewrite multiplication terms.
#96
(11-08-2025, 09:48 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote:  

Now.  Try volunteering to work with elementary kids that want to be a stylist or a big game hunter where in their minds they think their homework is BS. Try to motivate them to lean and understand the “importance” of the multiple distribution rule when what is important to them after school is to play on the playground.

If a trained white color worker can feel burnout.  What do you think a kid feels in the face of homework when they want to go run around outside.  

What is illusion and what is reality.  Is burnout for a grown adult real?  What does a 4th grader bright and imaginative feel when they want to playout being a stylist and forced to rewrite multiplication terms.

I agree with a lot of what you say. I have often thought that schools should be teaching children how to be human beings first and address the failings in the home regarding that aspect of their lives.
#97
Society.  “If you dream it, you can achieve it.”

Kid.  “I dream of never having homework assigned ever.”

Society.  “That’s stupid kid, do your homework.”

Who’s Bullsh;ting who….

The grand illusion.
#98
(11-08-2025, 09:48 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote:  

Now.  Try volunteering to work with elementary kids that want to be a stylist or a big game hunter where in their minds they think their homework is BS. Try to motivate them to lean and understand the “importance” of the multiple distribution rule when what is important to them after school is to play on the playground.

If a trained white color worker can feel burnout.  What do you think a kid feels in the face of homework when they want to go run around outside.  

What is illusion and what is reality.  Is burnout for a grown adult real?  What does a 4th grader bright and imaginative feel when they want to playout being a stylist and forced to rewrite multiplication terms.



I know the burnout of school well since I didn't do the last couple of years, too busy trying to be an adult and make money, a real difficulty at 14 and yes, my lack of a proper education held me back a lot, so did the lack of social skills and a few other things school would've helped me with. I did pass all my exams I was given though so I picked up an education somewhere... The teachers would be the last people I'd personally blame because they are the ones who went well out of their way to facilitate me doing my exams and having a bit homework so I knew what they'd be about. 

I learnt the hard way how much education is a necessity, I had dreams that didn't prove to be realistic too and they weren't exactly dreams of being an astronaut, a basic education is a necessity and the reality is most parents aren't educated themselves on all of the nuances of teaching a child. Teach them a trade from about 11-13 and onwards is ultimately my opinion.

But yeah, make it fun for the kids. Maths can be a huge part of hunting or being a stylist. We also understand so much more about diversity when it comes to human minds, especially kids. They all learn in different ways. If I was a kid today I'd be one of those SEND one's who thrives on one-to-one education and the freedom to figure things out themselves with decent guidance. I fear I'd be going way off topic bringing up social issues and the evolution of the individual in the modern world though since it's supposed to be about the illusion of free stuff, which is an illusion. Everything costs something regardless of which philosophy you approach it with, thoughts might be free but realistically I'm just lobbing the can like a grenade at the philosophers by saying that.

Always enjoyed reading Eastern philosophy with regards to duty to society. Education should be someone's duty IMO. Responsibility? Well, that always falls the the ones who made the baby, idealistically.
#99
(11-08-2025, 10:06 AM)midicon Wrote: I agree with a lot of what you say. I have often thought that schools should be teaching children how to be human beings first and address the failings in the home regarding that aspect of their lives.



Just like coppers should be dealing with the mentally ill?

Once you understand criminality though you come to the realisation that the very vast majority of them are mentally ill. Catch 22... Nutters. And earn a doughnut.
(11-08-2025, 10:33 AM)Ray1990 Wrote: Just like coppers should be dealing with the mentally ill?

Once you understand criminality though you come to the realisation that the very vast majority of them are mentally ill. Catch 22... Nutters. And earn a doughnut.

I often say on here that I live in an open air asylum.

I was tempted to use it as my signature lol.