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(11-07-2025, 01:40 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: You’re the one that threw down on Ned adolescent mod.
6-7
If you say so.
You have been informed as to the topic of the thread.
You're also the one who brought up neds down to what i can only imagine is some sort of strange fascination.
Stop seeking attention.
I'm at the end of a DM if you have any issues or require clarification.
Or if you really require an audience, do so in the thread you're bumping your gums about.
At least that would make a modicum of sense.
And not derail the current topic, which once again is not neds. 6-7
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-07-2025, 01:44 PM)Moon68 Wrote: The small intimate affairs are the best.
Many years ago, just after I got out of the service, I moonlighted at night working personal security a friend that was a rather big local musician/promoter. He arraigned a ton of invitation only sessions that I was able to attend. I was able to be at sittings with such people as Billy Squire, Gary Cherone, Huey Lewis, John Geils and Bob Seger and many more. It was a fantastic time.
I bet there was some interesting crack around those tables.
Cap doffed.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-07-2025, 01:44 PM)Moon68 Wrote: The small intimate affairs are the best.
Many years ago, just after I got out of the service, I moonlighted at night working personal security a friend that was a rather big local musician/promoter. He arraigned a ton of invitation only sessions that I was able to attend. I was able to be at sittings with such people as Billy Squire, Gary Cherone, Huey Lewis, John Geils and Bob Seger and many more. It was a fantastic time.
Lovely. The Marquee club in Soho used to do "secret" gigs. It was a small and intimate place.
I saw "A Little Old Band from Texas".
Guess who they were?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(11-07-2025, 01:50 PM)andy06shake Wrote: If you say so.
So. Part of society is to have a moral directive to school its children. And if Ned stands for none education or what not. How could a teenage girl going to school as directed by the state be none educated for her expected age.
This is like schools in the USA in the most liberal cities with some of the highest paid teachers with some of the strongest teachers unions resulting in dropout mills.
it’s a good study of what true socialism leads to. A failed education system where adults have to ignore the failed system and dive into dehumanizing those the system failed.
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(11-07-2025, 01:58 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: So. Part of society is to have a moral directive to school its children. And if Ned stands for none education or what not. How could a teenage girl going to school as directed by the state be none educated for her expected age.
This is like schools in the USA in the most liberal cities with some of the highest paid teachers with some of the strongest teachers unions resulting in dropout mills.
it’s a good study of what true socialism leads to. A failed education system where adults have to ignore the failed system and dive into dehumanizing those the system failed.
Nice way to try and make one thing about something completely different.....not.
What happens to her if she goes to school with an axe and a kitchen knife?
You see, if you know right from wrong and receive a proper education, you would know not to do that in a school, or a park, for a start.
Your parents would have taught you differently.
And how to resolve such a situation without breaking the law and possibly placing yourself and other people in danger.
Educated....as opposed to uneducated....or non-educated.
Have to say blaming "socialism" for U.S. school failures seems a tad ignorant, if not lazy.
Your education system is capitalist, and as you well know, funding depends on property taxes, not equality.
Which is why your wealthy districts thrive while the poor ones crumble.
Especially in "liberal" cities burdened by income disparity, not socialism....
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-07-2025, 02:18 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Nice way to try and make one thing about something completely different.....not.
There are cities in the USA driving towards socialism if not right communism through the Democratic Party which is heavily in bed with the teachers unions. Where the teachers unions are heavily invested in donating to the Democratic Party. California is in essence a single party state.
Anyway. The teachers unions are in power mostly because of the democrats and have a preferred status in the democrat party. And the education systems in large liberal cities reflect that. The teachers are more about indoctrination and aligning their students to the “party” and using the kids as pawns to maintain their power structure of the state. Why these cities at the high school level became dropout mills. How do you think a Ned becomes a Ned? When the sole responsible to educate falls on the government to the educators goals. In cities that want to defund the police.
When the real goal of education should be how to motivate a kindergarten that wants to be a big game hunter why they need to learn to read. Very bright and imaginative children call BS on their stacks of homework.
A socialist government doesn’t care about actual education, it becomes a ladder of entitled people wanting to maintain their power through indoctrination and making people bow to the state. While looking how to character assassinate those to climb that ladder. Hey glorious leader, Mr. Bill doesn’t have your book and not one picture of you in his house. I have read your book and totally agree and it’s brilliant. And a picture of you in every room to remember you as a civil servant.
You can say look at China. But how much has China invested in corporate espionage stealing from the west, infringing on patent and copyright law, engage in trade barriers to their country, and used unfair trade practices like using forced labor. While using secret police to keep their students abroad in line using them as spies with using family members at home as pawns to ensure students abroad comply with their spy duties. Where liberal colleges were more than happy to take CCP donations.
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(11-07-2025, 02:18 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Your education system is capitalist, and as you well know, funding depends on property taxes, not equality.
How is the education system in the State of Illinois grades K through 12 capitalist? Especially in Chicago.
Why do private schools in the UK for grammar school persist?
Quote:ILLINOIS LOWERS STANDARDS MAKING MORE STUDENTS SEEM “PROFICIENT”
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-...roficient/
Are you party of the grand illusion with false assurances. Seems the Illinois school system is.
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(11-07-2025, 03:12 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: How is the education system in the State of Illinois grades K through 12 capitalist? Especially in Chicago.
Why do private schools in the UK for grammar school persist?
Are you party of the grand illusion with false assurances. Seems the Illinois school system is.
It's quite simple, you live in a capitalist nation, not a communist or socialist nation, and Chicago is a city in the USA.
Hence capitalist education system.
Private schools in the UK persist because they are tied to elite universities, and careers in politics, and/or the military services.
Pretty much because wealthy families view them as investments in their children’s futures.
Hope that helps clarify my take on the matter.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-07-2025, 02:58 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: There are cities in the USA driving towards socialism if not right communism through the Democratic Party which is heavily in bed with the teachers unions. Where the teachers unions are heavily invested in donating to the Democratic Party. California is in essence a single party state.
Anyway. The teachers unions are in power mostly because of the democrats and have a preferred status in the democrat party. And the education systems in large liberal cities reflect that. The teachers are more about indoctrination and aligning their students to the “party” and using the kids as pawns to maintain their power structure of the state. Why these cities at the high school level became dropout mills. How do you think a Ned becomes a Ned? When the sole responsible to educate falls on the government to the educators goals. In cities that want to defund the police.
When the real goal of education should be how to motivate a kindergarten that wants to be a big game hunter why they need to learn to read. Very bright and imaginative children call BS on their stacks of homework.
A socialist government doesn’t care about actual education, it becomes a ladder of entitled people wanting to maintain their power through indoctrination and making people bow to the state. While looking how to character assassinate those to climb that ladder. Hey glorious leader, Mr. Bill doesn’t have your book and not one picture of you in his house. I have read your book and totally agree and it’s brilliant. And a picture of you in every room to remember you as a civil servant.
You can say look at China. But how much has China invested in corporate espionage stealing from the west, infringing on patent and copyright law, engage in trade barriers to their country, and used unfair trade practices like using forced labor. While using secret police to keep their students abroad in line using them as spies with using family members at home as pawns to ensure students abroad comply with their spy duties. Where liberal colleges were more than happy to take CCP donations.
Political diatribes aside, I would have thought the real goal of any education system should be education.
Or at least in any sort of free nation.
Such as our own respective nations.
As to China, the only thing i would say about that is they are the real enemy imho.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11-07-2025, 03:40 PM)andy06shake Wrote: It's quite simple, you live in a capitalist nation, not a communist or socialist nation, and Chicago is a city in the USA.
Hence capitalist education system.
For K through 12 grades.
Except there is no choice other than the state institutions unless you can afford private schools.
Where the state schools are paid through taxing and the redistribution of wealth determined by the government.
State school funding is not paid by students. They are paid by the distribution of wealth from a tax base.
Where the teachers union can go on strike and shutdown schools leaving large portions of the population with no alternatives for school until the strikes are settled.
Are you blatantly this dishonest?
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