Vladimir Putin 'spits in Trump's face'

[Maxmars]

I suspect a hundred years from now, it will become clear that this war, and many like it, were actually multi-lateral ventures carried out under the guise of governance, using manufactured fear... and somehow supported by third parties... solely for profit.

[sahgwa]

This war was never meant to end until all the men are dead and Ukraine is a corporate shell 'saved' by NATO and western corporations.
Then Russia is bled dry and also rendered useless.
It's a win win for the 'elites' 
In the meantime enjoy the money laundering and use of your tax dollars. 
We have a while to go it seems. 
I just don't know if Putin is playing his preferred part as a Young Global Leader just like the other EU folks, or if he has gone 'off script'

[Maxmars]

This war was never meant to end until all the men are dead and Ukraine is a corporate shell 'saved' by NATO and western corporations.
Then Russia is bled dry and also rendered useless.
It's a win win for the 'elites' 
In the meantime enjoy the money laundering and use of your tax dollars. 
We have a while to go it seems. 
I just don't know if Putin is playing his preferred part as a Young Global Leader just like the other EU folks, or if he has gone 'off script'

No doubt part of all "behavior" in their paradigm is especially for "appearances."

The "leaders of record" all obey the same patterned behaviors...
all distinctions and flourishes may just be theater... prestige... and of course - good old socially-tolerable  profiteering.

The use of the term "off-script" often telegraphs some perception that there definitely is a 'script.'

So all the 'media talking head" additions, the various focus points "published" and otherwise are not from a script... but from an audience...  

Diplomacy and "publicity" are oil and water... to do it correctly you must "lie" to the public.  Or the public must accept the it is they who are creating the echo chamber... and they are not part of the negotiations nor have a voice in it.  Only those who claim to represent the nations at war have a place... and only they can choose who to "hear."   It their choice. If there is spitting in the face between them... they likely will remain at war.

[sahgwa]

No doubt part of all "behavior" in their paradigm is especially for "appearances."

The "leaders of record" all obey the same patterned behaviors...
all distinctions and flourishes may just be theater... prestige... and of course - good old socially-tolerable  profiteering.

The use of the term "off-script" often telegraphs some perception that there definitely is a 'script.'

So all the 'media talking head" additions, the various focus points "published" and otherwise are not from a script... but from an audience...  

Diplomacy and "publicity" are oil and water... to do it correctly you must "lie" to the public.  Or the public must accept the it is they who are creating the echo chamber... and they are not part of the negotiations nor have a voice in it.  Only those who claim to represent the nations at war have a place... and only they can choose who to "hear."   It their choice. If there is spitting in the face between them... they likely will remain at war.

Ukraine has had multiple chances to pony up to peace but Zelensky wants more ponies. 
Blablabla Russia invaded first blablablabla

[Kurokage]

Ukraine has had multiple chances to pony up to peace but Zelensky wants more ponies. 
Blablabla Russia invaded first blablablabla

Pony up to peace??  Don't you mean give up half of Ukraine to Putin??

[sahgwa]

Pony up to peace??  Don't you mean give up half of Ukraine to Putin??

I will just let the average Joes posting on the news speak for me, because they are not wrong:

No long lasting peace since the beginning of man has been achieved without a decisive winner and loser. I’m not sure why some folks can’t see the obvious. As Trump told zalenski “you don’t have the cards” and that hasn’t changed in a year. I don’t think he’s in a position to negotiate anything other than as you stated.

The country losing a war doesn’t get to dictate the terms how it ends. The only thing they can do is ask “what do you need from us so that you stop attacking.” Anything less than that and the war continues.

Zelensky who skirted his mandatory military service basically wore fatigues for a few years and made a few billion. Will probably never live in Ukraine again and he finished the role of his life that paid quite well.

By now Zelensky and those supporting him should have siphoned off enough money to last them for a long, long time. Much of which has come from US tax payers.

Enough. Ukraine and Russia can negotiate their own peace treaty or not. Time for America to step aside

[angelchemuel]

This war was never meant to end until all the men are dead and Ukraine is a corporate shell 'saved' by NATO and western corporations.
Then Russia is bled dry and also rendered useless.
It's a win win for the 'elites' 
In the meantime enjoy the money laundering and use of your tax dollars. 
We have a while to go it seems. 
I just don't know if Putin is playing his preferred part as a Young Global Leader just like the other EU folks, or if he has gone 'off script'

He's appeared a few times at Davos, but he's not a member of WEF.
I remember watching him when he last appeared (everyone on video call because of covid in 2021/2022..... he tore WEF a new a*** hole.
Rainbows
Jane

[Oldcarpy2]

Trump has just declared himself as supporting Russia and critising Europe.

Goodbye to the so called Leader of the Free World.

The man's a maggot.

He can just piss off.

We are better off without his Biden style dementia.

And him being a Putin asset.

[UltraBudgie]

Trump has just declared himself as supporting Russia and critising Europe.

Goodbye to the so called Leader of the Free World.

The man's a maggot.

He can just piss off.

We are better off without his Biden style dementia.

And him being a Putin asset.

Oh? What did he say?

[Oldcarpy2]

Oh? What did he say?

BBC News - Trump criticises 'decaying' European countries and 'weak' leadershttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clydlwldkvko