Understanding Christian Zionism and Newton

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Cristian Zionism is embedded in the Elites inner framework, and has been for many hundreds of years, It is not the Jewish religion, and the state of Israel is not run by Orthodox Jews, it is a Christian Zionist construct. Which is to hasten the second coming. It sounds Bizarre and what is more bizarre is that Issac Newton the scientist started it. It does not matter if the second coming is going to happen, the point is the framework that's running things has been set up and has the momentum to force itself into the structural reality from the ideas of this man of genius Mr Newton. Simply because the framework is paying and supplying the resources for this it will be almost impossible to stop. So this is the narrative of the near future, which is shaping history, and pitching us toward the final battle.
 If you understand the concept of what is driving these times. an understand that the modern-day Israel is an Anglo American construction and not a Jewish one thins get clearer.  Have a listen to this.  Geo-Strategy Update #4: Newton's Divine Plan

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"The Law and the Promise15Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” [sup]i[/sup] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise."

Galatians 3 NIV

"Christian Zionism: A Theological Contradiction and Political Liability
 
In recent decades, a growing number of American evangelicals have embraced what’s commonly called Christian Zionism—the belief that Christians are biblically obligated to support the modern political state of Israel. At first glance, this alliance appears rooted in shared values, spiritual heritage, and prophetic fulfillment. Yet when examined under the scrutiny of Scripture, Church History, and moral consistency, Christian Zionism emerges as a theological oxymoron. It is also, arguably, a subtle rejection of the very gospel it claims to uphold.

Even more striking is that many Jews, both secular and religious, reject this alliance as disingenuous, instrumentalizing, and ultimately dangerous. Christian Zionism, far from being a unifying theology, distorts both the Christian message and the Jewish experience. This is for the sake of a deeply flawed political project."

Rejecting Christian Zionism: A Theological and Moral Critique - National File

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1. Abraham’s Promises Are Fulfilled in Christ
Christian Zionists often cite Genesis 12:3—”I will bless those who bless you”—as justification for their unwavering support of Israel. But Paul clarifies in Galatians 3:16 that “the promises were made to Abraham and to his seed… and that seed is Christ.” He further declares in verse 28 that in Christ, “there is neither Jew nor Greek… for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”
 
This means that the Abrahamic covenant is not fulfilled in a secular nation-state but in Christ’s body-the Church. Romans 9:6 states, “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” To reattach God’s promises to ethnic or geopolitical lineage is a form of theological regression."

"​​​​​​​3. Jewish Voice for Peace
The left-wing organization Jewish Voice for Peace openly criticizes Christian Zionism as an ideology that “uses Jewish suffering to justify violence against Palestinians” and seeks to instrumentalize Jews for Christian theological goals."

Food for thought.

[UltraBudgie]

it is quite the verbal spell call anything israel and you can demand devotion from the credulous thus makes sense why some call it the zionist entity instead to try and break that conditioned response but that of course is argued as antisemantic and denying a right to exist but one positive thing is it is more out in the open as it were for example as caitlin johnstone notes today:

Uh-Oh! Political Antisemitism Smears Have Stopped Working!

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I’ve never understood the debate about whether or not support for Israel is commanded in the Bible. If you think the Bible commands you to support what’s being done in Gaza, then throw your Bible in the trash and get a different religion, because it’s plainly false and immoral.

It is not legitimate to offload your responsibility for your own behavior onto your religion. If your religion commanded you to sexually molest children, it would be your moral responsibility as a human being to disobey your religion and stop following it. Gaza’s no different.

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A charismatic pro-Palestinian Muslim becoming the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City. Westerners chanting “death to the IDF” and having a great time doing it. Israeli soldiers confessing their genocidal atrocities in the Israeli press. Israel’s PR stranglehold is finally ending.

haha so take that as it is you can certainly judge the source by her words which was probably not true a decade ago

[FlyersFan]

... it is a Christian Zionist construct. Which is to hasten the second coming. It sounds Bizarre ...

Some think that way.  Not a whole lot.  Most people who are Christian and support Israel do so for non religious purposes.  They just know that the so-called palestinians are violent and nutty so they side with the one truly democratic and (mostly) free nation in the Middle East where you can be any religion you want and you can be gay and not have to worry about being thrown off the top of a building.

The Muslims have their version of religious nutters who are trying to push a coming of a messiah figure.  The 12ers Shia Muslims are trying to destroy Israel, and all jews, so to bring their imaginary Mahdi who will supposedly kill all the non muslims and turn the world Islamic.   The whackjob, Zohan, running for mayor in NYC is a proud 12er .. proclaims it to everyone.

Twelver Shia Islam and Existential War against Israel

[andy06shake]

Cristian Zionism is embedded in the Elites inner framework, and has been for many hundreds of years, It is not the Jewish religion, and the state of Israel is not run by Orthodox Jews, it is a Christian Zionist construct. Which is to hasten the second coming. It sounds Bizarre and what is more bizarre is that Issac Newton the scientist started it. It does not matter if the second coming is going to happen, the point is the framework that's running things has been set up and has the momentum to force itself into the structural reality from the ideas of this man of genius Mr Newton. Simply because the framework is paying and supplying the resources for this it will be almost impossible to stop. So this is the narrative of the near future, which is shaping history, and pitching us toward the final battle.
 If you understand the concept of what is driving these times. an understand that the modern-day Israel is an Anglo American construction and not a Jewish one thins get clearer.  Have a listen to this.  Geo-Strategy Update #4: Newton's Divine Plan

Christian Zionism emerged in the 19th century, not from Isaac Newton, that particular individual's theological interests were private and somewhat complex.

Modern Israel was founded by secular Jewish nationalists, not Christian Zionists or "Anglo-American elites."

And while some Christian Zionists support Israel for theological reasons, they certainly don't control Israeli policy.

Orthodox Jews are a minority in Israeli politics but do indeed have some influence. 

Framing Israel as a Christian project ignores the history behind its founding.

You're oversimplifying global politics.

And turning it into a conspiracy theory without solid historical facts.

As to final battles, that's just wishful thinking combined with self-fulfilling prophecy, because some of them believe in the likes of the rapture.

[ANNEE]

Ideas are projected. People grab onto them. 

Like MAGA. 

Not all Republicans are MAGA. 

Very simplified 

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Ideas are projected. People grab onto them. 

Like MAGA. 

Not all Republicans are MAGA. 

Very simplified 

They are now calling MAGA a personality type of cult but again, simplified, considering MAGA is breaking apart in separate factions. Can a personality be attuned to an ideology?

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They are now calling MAGA a personality type of cult but again, simplified, considering MAGA is breaking apart in separate factions. Can a personality be attuned to an ideology?

YES. 

I think the core of most things is simple — then people complicate it.

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YES. 

I think the core of most things is simple — then people complicate it.

Can one's personality crafted by culture/upbringing etc. actually not be crafted by the person themselves? I'm just bouncing ideas off of you, no need to answer or join me in going off topic, that is, if Christian Zionism does not attract certain personality types who have chosen certain ideologies which feed their beliefs/desires/hates/loves is going off topic (?)

[ANNEE]

Can one's personality crafted by culture/upbringing etc. actually not be crafted by the person themselves? I'm just bouncing ideas off of you, no need to answer or join me in going off topic, that is, if Christian Zionism does not attract certain personality types who have chosen certain ideologies which feed their beliefs/desires/hates/loves is going off topic (?)

As previously said — I am interested in social anthropology. 

Absolutely, I think, culture, etc affects decision making. I honestly think the brain is “programmed” within a culture. 

I actually find “they need to adapt” disturbing. 

PROTESTING — creating the opportunity for individuals to join in group — not necessarily all of the same exact thought.