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Yesterday, 05:16 AM
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(07-19-2026, 05:10 PM)EXETER Wrote: Maybe you haven't noticed, but we have no actual independent verification of what has been achieved. This has been the most locked down Special Military Operation of my lifetime from the standpoint of public reporting. We pretty much only see and hear what Don and Pete want us to see and hear. The only thing we know for sure is that they've burned through probably about 100 Billion dollars of high-tech weapons that will take years to re-stock.
That's true on the verification. I just go by the fact that the most powerful military the recorded world has ever seen have been taking Iran apart on and off for many months. Judging from past air campaigns I'd say its safe to believe Iran's MIC is now in ruins. But with these troublesome nations, full of mischief, the best bet is just keep pounding them on a regular basis. It's all Israel does every now and then. Just keep 'em down.
On the Military stocks, surely that's a good thing. USA factories will be given a boost with all the economic knock ons in the supply trade, plus much of the old stock was exactly that, old stock. Now we get brand new up to date munitions.
It's a win win all around, plus the dear old Arab nations will, knowing Trump, be paying for the dismantling of the Iranian MIC through the back door. A bit like his new chariot for the sky. For the Sunni Arab world, Israel and the USA have gone from being meddlesome troublemakers in ME affairs, to now, the best thing since sliced bread
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(Yesterday, 01:10 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Both sides are still taking casualties and the Straits of Hormuz are still closed.
I do get out, though. I love the outdoors.
I guess if Killing a few Americans is your goal. Iran is still in the war. But American can kill all of them. Any time America wants. And is taking out anything they want whenever they want.
So to me. It looks like Commander and Chief Trump and Americas military are winning.
You need to get more "news sources" than what they allow on your Island. Something not so bat shit crazy.
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(Yesterday, 07:40 AM)Knows Wrote: I guess if Killing a few Americans is your goal. Iran is still in the war. But American can kill all of them. Any time America wants. And is taking out anything they want whenever they want.
So to me. It looks like Commander and Chief Trump and Americas military are winning.
You need to get more "news sources" than what they allow on your Island. Something not so bat shit crazy. 
American military there can't protect its allies and how long do you think those allies can take Iran's strikes without turning against your government?
Israel too is raising the ire of Turkiye. Like Iran, Turkiye is well armed and able to defend itself.
This tit-for-tat escalation is only escalating an already bad decision and lies made by your government, it can only get worse.
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(Yesterday, 07:56 AM)quintessentone Wrote: American military there can't protect its allies and how long do you think those allies can take Iran's strikes without turning against your government?
Israel too is raising the ire of Turkiye. Like Iran, Turkiye is well armed and able to defend itself.
This tit-for-tat escalation is only escalating an already bad decision and lies made by your government, it can only get worse.
I'm sure Americas allies would rather take a few bombs now. Than a few Nukes later. If America did nothing.
Türkiye is a member of NATO and helped topple Syria. They will likely do the same with Iran.
Lucky for everyone you aren't in charge. Or we would still be kicking the can down the road to Armageddon.
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(Yesterday, 08:21 AM)Knows Wrote: I'm sure Americas allies would rather take a few bombs now. Than a few Nukes later. If America did nothing.
Türkiye is a member of NATO and helped topple Syria. They will likely do the same with Iran.
Lucky for everyone you aren't in charge. Or we would still be kicking the can down the road to Armageddon. 
There won't be a few bombs, there will be devasting amounts of destruction once they start targeting civilian infrastructure.
Turkiye will protect it's interests, NATO or not.
Unlucky for you and the world that your government is heading towards WWIII because of your dear leader's ego and 'it's never enough' greed and corruption.
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(Yesterday, 07:40 AM)Knows Wrote: I guess if Killing a few Americans is your goal. Iran is still in the war. But American can kill all of them. Any time America wants. And is taking out anything they want whenever they want.
So to me. It looks like Commander and Chief Trump and Americas military are winning.
You need to get more "news sources" than what they allow on your Island. Something not so bat shit crazy. 
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(07-19-2026, 11:48 PM)Astyanax Wrote: So, is this the new Mudpit?
I certainly hope not, it only will drag this site down as happened on ATS.
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(Yesterday, 08:33 AM)quintessentone Wrote: There won't be a few bombs, there will be devasting amounts of destruction once they start targeting civilian infrastructure.
Turkiye will protect it's interests, NATO or not.
Unlucky for you and the world that your government is heading towards WWIII because of your dear leader's ego and 'it's never enough' greed and corruption.
Sounds like you are arguing for America to vaporize Iran now before they can target civilian infrastructure. If we stopped bombing them now they magically wouldn't stop trying to build bigger and better weapons and then use them immediately. If we leave any part of the IRGC intact they will come for us are you saying we should just stand down and let them destroy us?
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Yesterday, 08:53 AM
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(Yesterday, 08:51 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: Sounds like you are arguing for America to vaporize Iran now before they can target civilian infrastructure. If we stopped bombing them now they magically wouldn't stop trying to build bigger and better weapons and then use them immediately. If we leave any part of the IRGC intact they will come for us are you saying we should just stand down and let them destroy us?
Really, that's how it sounds to you? Why am I not surprised?
Nobody was attacking the USA, Israel and the USA started this war for imperialistic expansionist reasons because the leaders are compromised and corrupt and really don't know how to govern their countries at all. They have to attack other countries and steal their resources.
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(Yesterday, 08:53 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Really, that's how it sounds to you? Why am I not surprised?
Nobody was attacking the USA, Israel and the USA started this war for imperialistic expansionist reasons because the leaders are compromised and corrupt and really don't know how to govern their countries at all. They have to attack other countries and steal their resources.
Okay we'll say that's accurate, if we stopped today they would still come for us they wouldn't just let what has been done to them go. So our only options now are to wipe them out in total or allow them to wipe us out because they are not interested in peaceful resolution they want us dead they chat death to America that means they want us dead. so either you are suggesting we go all in or your are suggesting we die. which is it?
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