US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[SteamyAmerican]

Who doesn't want peace?

This is a good thing.

Wait what?

Aren’t you the dude that keeps saying nuke Iran and anyone that looks like them?

GTFOH.

[DBCowboy]

Wait what?

Aren’t you the dude that keeps saying nuke Iran and anyone that looks like them?

GTFOH.

If they're surrendering then there's no need.

 

Problem?  Solved.

[chr0naut]

If they're surrendering then there's no need.

 

Problem?  Solved.

If Trumb was replaced by someone sane, the problem would also just simply go away.

[putnam6]

Enough to know this was a mistake before it started.

The same could be said of the US.

Again the same could be said for the US. I mean just look at the situation. It is us that has set such extreme conditions when they clearly have some even if limited control of a major shipping lane.

"IIRG was/is behind a mosaic command structure in which, if one area dies, the other areas have specific orders to continue. IIRG is fighting for thier survival. They have brutalized the Iranian GP, death by Uncle Sammy, or the newly free Iranian GP."
How and why do you think that is? History clearly was ignored thanks to hubris. 

I personally didn't view Iran having a nuke a clear and present danger. Because others literately right next to them can take care of that problem on their own. I have no problem with supplying arms as long as those arms go towards Americas interest. Our objectives can and should be achieved without the use of OUR military.

Yet despite this administration knowing full well that can be achieved they chose to go ahead with a foolhardy attack with zero thought put into the guaranteed closure of the strait.
Yet more than one time our president has told the world they have no more NAVY, no more missiles, no leader, the strait is safe for passage.....The list goes on and on Putnam you must see this.

There's been more dire situations than the Iranian issue in my lifetime... the Iranian hostage crisis was 444 days, you can't slow-play some situations

I don't overreact to any politician's bullshit either, I don't hang on thier every word, either, especially a guy like Trump.

Regardless, economic sanctions would have taken 30 times longer, and they were likely being bypassed to some to a large degree.

And yeah, once America is at war, I tend to want the war to go well for Uncle Sammy. America has never gone to war in the Middle East with such a divided public at home. The saving grace was the Saudis being on board, as well as a few others

A few times in this 500-page thread, ive mentioned I didnt agree with the war, but I understand why the Trump administration did it was strengthened in my mind after seeing Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis shoot missiles not at the US or Israel but indiscriminately at thier Gulf state arab nieghbors? WTH

Once that happened, Iran needed to be slapped down a few notches, they can't be trusted in a civilized world if they had nukes, who knows "enough" to guarantee they won't use them.

Then there is the killing of women protesting, getting whacked in the head by a rusty machete, and having it be state-sponsored mutilation.

There's no place for that in the 21st century, yet the world is supposed to turn a blind eye and do business with the lunatic bastards. FTN and screw both China and Russia, for supporting and arming them.

Barrack gave them 1.7 billion, and they armed themselves and financed Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, instead of maybe a couple of hundred million on the GP.

Im still skeptical, but militarily, the war was a huge success. China's air defense systems were exposed. Last time I checked for all the missiles and drones from Iran and thier proxies hitting the actual target was incredibly low, like single-digit percentages.

All Iran could do militarily is terrorize weaker countries. If we were more united domestically and had NATO been a little more demonstrative in thier support and not given Iran hope, it would have been over earlier.

Thankfully, Iran chose to target thier nieghbors that was the turning point militarily. Now lets see if we can end it diplomatically.

Politically, domestically, too many here hate on whatever Trump does or says because they don't like him, which clouds their judgment.... But

None of that precludes him from having effectiveness in some areas where America has been weak, AH recently

The Americas never had this kind of Arab support in a Middle East war, which leaves America in better shape for the next Middle East crisis

Key Arab States Supporting the US Side United Arab Emirates (UAE): Strongest and most hawkish supporter. Reportedly conducted dozens of strikes on Iran (coordinated with US/Israel), pushed for continued US military action or even a ground invasion, hosted Israeli ties, and cracked down on Iranian-linked entities. It has faced heavy Iranian retaliation but aligned closely with the US.

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Saudi Arabia: Provided logistical support (e.g., access to King Fahd Air Base), reportedly launched covert strikes on Iran in retaliation, and privately urged the US not to stop short of weakening Iran significantly. It has balanced this with public calls for de-escalation.

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Bahrain: Hosts the US Navy’s 5th Fleet; strongly condemned Iranian attacks and aligned with US efforts.

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Kuwait: Condemned Iranian strikes, supported US operations, and joined calls to pressure Iran.

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Other notable supporters:Jordan: Condemned Iranian attacks, helped intercept threats, and generally aligns with US/Sunni Arab positions against Iranian influence.

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Egypt: Maintains strong US military ties and has historically viewed Iran as a rival; part of broader anti-Iran alignment (e.g., via Arab League actions).

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More Cautious or Neutral PositionsQatar: Condemned Iranian attacks on its territory but has leaned toward diplomacy/mediation and hosts some Iranian-linked figures.

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Oman: Most neutral; criticized the war as a "miscalculation," focused on mediation, and maintained channels with Iran.

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Broader ContextThese alignments stem from long-standing rivalries: Sunni Arab Gulf states see Shia Iran as a threat due to its support for proxies (Houthis, Hezbollah, etc.), regional influence, and attacks on shipping/oil infrastructure. Many host US bases, making them targets but also partners in US-led efforts.

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Support has often been private/logistical (air defense cooperation, basing, intelligence) rather than overt combat, due to fears of escalation and economic fallout. Arab states (led by Gulf ones) helped pass UN/Arab League resolutions condemning Iran.

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This is a snapshot tied to recent events (especially 2025–2026 tensions and war); positions can shift with diplomacy, such as Saudi-Iran rapprochement attempts in prior years. Non-Gulf Arab states (e.g., Iraq, Syria, Lebanon) often have stronger Iranian ties and did not support the US side.

When was the last time Israel helped an Arab state this demonstratively during war ?

Did Israel help an arab state with air defense systems

Thought for 5s

Yes, Israel has helped at least one Arab state—the United Arab Emirates (UAE)—with air defense systems.

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Key Instance: Deployment to the UAE (2026 Iran War)During the 2026 Israel-Iran conflict, Israel deployed its Iron Dome air defense batteries to the UAE at the request of UAE President Mohamed bin Zayed. Israeli troops (IDF personnel) traveled with the system to operate it and help intercept Iranian missiles and drones.

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This was the first time Israel sent Iron Dome outside its own territory (or the US) and the first operational use in an Arab country.

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Israel also sent a version of its Iron Beam laser-based air defense system (for cost-effective drone/rocket interception) and advanced surveillance tech like the Spectro system for early drone detection.

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The UAE faced some of the heaviest Iranian retaliation in the Gulf, making this direct assistance a major milestone in post-Abraham Accords cooperation.

nytimes.com

This marked a significant shift, with Israeli forces actively defending an Arab nation against a shared threat (Iran).Broader ContextPre-war sales and systems: Israel has sold or supplied other air defense tech to the UAE, such as the SPYDER and Barak systems, which the UAE has used alongside its own and US defenses.

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Regional integration efforts: There have been broader (often US-brokered) discussions since ~2022 about linking Israeli radar/sensor tech into a shared Middle East air defense network with Gulf states, Jordan, Egypt, etc., to counter Iranian threats. This includes data-sharing but not always direct Israeli deployments.

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No confirmed public deployments of Israeli-operated systems to other Arab states like Saudi Arabia or Jordan in the same direct way, though intelligence-sharing, airspace coordination, and indirect support (e.g., radar data) have occurred.

dw.com

This cooperation reflects shared strategic interests against Iran, enabled by the Abraham Accords, despite public sensitivities in the Arab world. Positions can evolve with regional diplomacy.

[RazorV66]

If Trumb was replaced by someone sane, the problem would also just simply go away.

That only means you guys Trump butt hurt would go away.

The world's problems would still be the same.

[putnam6]

That only means you guys Trump butt hurt would go away.

The world's problems would still be the same.

I know, right


Even he knows that's ludicrous

[RazorV66]

I know, right

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Even he knows that's ludicrous

It's like I said the other night, nobody can be objective when they are constantly clutching their ass from Trump butt hurt.

These guys are weak and fragile.

[chr0naut]

That only means you guys Trump butt hurt would go away.

The world's problems would still be the same.

Trumb has done things that affect other people in other countries.

He is one of the world's problems.

[RazorV66]

Trumb has done things that affect other people in other countries.

He is one of the world's problems.

Toughen up.

[putnam6]

It's like I said the other night, nobody can be objective when they are constantly clutching their ass from Trump butt hurt.

Comes down to that, if you believe how close Iran was to getting a functioning nuclear warhead to attach to their missiles.

This administration believed they were close enough that they risked American lives and the midterms and 2028.

They had a high degree of certainty and genuinely believed

you cant let unstable nations have nukes.