US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[DBCowboy]

Yeah very valid point man, im sure the 9 nuclear countries concur with that and this is the result

I could care less what they think.

We just dodged another nuclear N. Korea with even a more screwed up asswipe in charge, who actually STATES he wanted to nuke Israel and the US.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

I could care less what they think.

We just dodged another nuclear N. Korea with even a more screwed up asswipe in charge, who actually STATES he wanted to nuke Israel and the US.

 I was shedding light that maybe Russia covertly encouraged all of this to begin with

[DBCowboy]

 I was shedding light that maybe Russia covertly encouraged all of this to begin with

Hell no.  Russia AND China got hurt by this.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Hell no.  Russia AND China got hurt by this.

I was under the impression that Russia and china have an agreement where china produces oil and Russia refines it, making Iran inconsequential in the matters of oil importing to themselves. I remember a few years back people were talking about that. I dont recall if it was some official thing I just remember Russia buying crude from China and refining it

It might actually be the opposite way around where Russia supplies china I forget.
https://energyandcleanair.org/december-2...sanctions/

[DBCowboy]

I was under the impression that Russia and china have an agreement where china produces oil and Russia refines it, making Iran inconsequential in the matters of oil importing to themselves. I remember a few years back people were talking about that. I dont recall if it was some official thing I just remember Russia buying crude from China and refining it

China is a net deficit in oil, always has been.  China relied on Venezuela and Iran for most of their oil.  Russia has oil, but they're burning it in Ukraine.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

China is a net deficit in oil, always has been.  China relied on Venezuela and Iran for most of their oil.  Russia has oil, but they're burning it in Ukraine.

Russia is the top supplier of crude to China, for years consecutively

[DBCowboy]

Russia is the top supplier of crude to China

And they're using it themselves.

Regardless, this has impacted Russia and China negatively.

So yay.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

And they're using it themselves.

Regardless, this has impacted Russia and China negatively.

So yay.

How so, when it is directly increasing Moscow crude export revenue and easing the pressure of U.S. sanctions? You're wrong DB and were incorrect about China's imports and I have a valid point

One could even argue that the conflict consumes U.S. military assets (such as missile interceptors), which reduces the resources available for Ukraine and the Pacific.

My point was that both powers have effectively utilized the instability to fracture Western sanctions covertly

Think about it man, why did Iran broadcast that one message in Russian in the beginning
The covert mission failed, Russia denied knowledge, and Iran was left to dry like a spy that got caught

[IDELB2006]

 I was shedding light that maybe Russia covertly encouraged all of this to begin with

It makes for a good diversion from the Ukraine war,  but it also diverts a lot of cheap drones and rockets Iran could have sold to Russia.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

It makes for a good diversion from the Ukraine war,  but it also diverts a lot of cheap drones and rockets Iran could have sold to Russia.

Russia is a super power, surely Iranian drones are inferior right?
They can't even enrich uranium and we are to believe they make quality drones?

Russia has the resources, materials, rare earth metals, probably better scientists, hell they technically even have Edward Snowden lol Who knows what they got but we definitely know what Iran has because they've already used it

I wouldnt use my secret stuff if im not under attack.

Then again though cheap is good and it does look like Russia wants as little effort as possible in Ukraine, maybe you're right