US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[cherokeetroy]

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[EXETER]

I think we should use all the arguments against us doing this to Iran for us not getting involved with Ukraine.

You're comparing apples and oranges.  In Iran we're doing more than "getting involved".  We're committed to direct, kinetic attacks that have US military personnel killing Iranian military personnel and blowing up Iranian property, with some of the US personnel getting killed in return.  In other words, war.

In Ukraine, we are providing economic, material, and intelligence support to Ukrainians who are doing the fighting against the Russians.  From the beginning, the US, the UK, and other signatories declined to have their military personnel and resources in direct contact/combat with Russians. That's why the Memorandum says that we will provide "assurance" that the terms of the Memorandum will be upheld and not a "guarantee".  A guarantee would imply that we would be obliged to engage in combat along side the Ukrainians.  The Memorandum was written this way specifically to avoid direct combat between the forces of nuclear-armed states, such as Russia, the US, the UK, France, and China--all of whom ultimately signed on to the agreement.  This was for the obvious purpose of avoiding the possibility of escalation to the use of nuclear weapons. 

This reminds me of the old joke:  the chicken is involved in a bacon and egg breakfast, but the pig is committed.

[DBCowboy]

You're comparing apples and oranges.  In Iran we're doing more than "getting involved".  We're committed to direct, kinetic attacks that have US military personnel killing Iranian military personnel and blowing up Iranian property, with some of the US personnel getting killed in return.  In other words, war.

In Ukraine, we are providing economic, material, and intelligence support to Ukrainians who are doing the fighting against the Russians.  From the beginning, the US, the UK, and other signatories declined to have their military personnel and resources in direct contact/combat with Russians. That's why the Memorandum says that we will provide "assurance" that the terms of the Memorandum will be upheld and not a "guarantee".  A guarantee would imply that we would be obliged to engage in combat along side the Ukrainians.  The Memorandum was written this way specifically to avoid direct combat between the forces of nuclear-armed states, such as Russia, the US, the UK, France, and China--all of whom ultimately signed on to the agreement.  This was for the obvious purpose of avoiding the possibility of escalation to the use of nuclear weapons. 

This reminds me of the old joke:  the chicken is involved in a bacon and egg breakfast, but the pig is committed.

The difference is that Iran can be done in weeks, the MIC and US and EU have created another forever war in Ukraine.

[IDELB2006]

The difference is that Iran can be done in weeks, the MIC and US and EU have created another forever war in Ukraine.

That sounds optimistic considering all the years America spent in Iraq.

Are you expecting Iran to put up less of a fight than Iraq?

[DBCowboy]

That sounds optimistic considering all the years America spent in Iraq.

Are you expecting Iran to put up less of a fight than Iraq?

No.

We'll put up a better fight than we did then.

You don't fight a war for a tie.

You fight to win.

We have a VP and Sec of War that fought, like I did, in the forever wars.

It's time to win.

Step on throats.

Crush them.

[Vermilion]

That sounds optimistic considering all the years America spent in Iraq.

Are you expecting Iran to put up less of a fight than Iraq?

We’re expecting the Persians to take their country back from the satanist cabal who ruined the place for the past 47 years.
We’re just giving them a helping hand.

[tellmethesecrets]

Is anyone else really worried about the potential sleeper cells in Europe?

[DBCowboy]

Is anyone else really worried about the potential sleeper cells in Europe?

Then they should have vetted better.

We've got that problem now in the US thanks to the evil communist left.

[worldstarcountry]

We’re expecting the Persians to take their country back from the satanist cabal who ruined the place for the past 47 years.

I thought the Bilderberg conference reps were the Satanic Cabal. Bank for International Settlements? World Economic Forum?? Carlyle Group??

meh, I guess there are many Satanic Cabals technically, and they all seem to fight each other as well.

[IDELB2006]

No.

We'll put up a better fight than we did then.

You don't fight a war for a tie.

You fight to win.

We have a VP and Sec of War that fought, like I did, in the forever wars.

It's time to win.

Step on throats.

Crush them.

I guess they don't have a choice but to wrap this up in 4 weeks.

They don't have the logistics in place for a prolonged war. 

Does "Crush them" mean we will defeat them?

We already obliterated them just last year.