US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[DBCowboy]

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AICfXR2vI]

"How does Trump back out of this?"

"He backs out, he just simply says the war is over."

I mean i share the fellas' sentiment, but i think if it was that easy, Trump would have taken the off-ramp long ago.

Backing out would give Iran the win.

Is that what people really want?

Iran to win?

[andy06shake]

Backing out would give Iran the win.

Is that what people really want?

Iran to win?

No, but they do want to know when it's going to end.

Because all this ""Winning"" DB is beginning to look like something else...

And a forever war is apt to be expensive in more ways than just money.

[Oldcarpy2]

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AICfXR2vI]

"How does Trump back out of this?"

"He backs out, he just simply says the war is over."

I mean i share the fellas' sentiment, but i think if it was that easy, Trump would have taken the off-ramp long ago.

He can't back out until the Strait is open, as well as the Red Sea route.

Both of which were open before he started this War, which was not in the interest of the US, just at Israel's behest.

He's trapped the US in an escalatory War.

Which is precisely why no US President has started a War with Iran before.

Because of the Strait.

And no, I don't want Iran to win.

[andy06shake]

He can't back out until the Strait is open, as well as the Red Sea route.

Both of which were open before he started this War, which was not in the interest of the US, just at Israel's behest.

He's trapped the US in an escalatory War.

Which is precisely why no US President has started a War with Iran before.

Because of the Strait.

And no, I don't want Iran to win.

You have to ponder which ""military genius"" told him it would be a good idea to start an actual shooting war with the Iranians...

Aside from Netanyahu of course.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

My opinion only seems iconoclastic for a Trump critic on the surface.  

THIS IS NOT THE 6 DAYS WAR. The carnival barker doesn't necessarily tell you about the entire fair. The distraction is the strait. Is the neverending back and forth of smoke and market capitalization...

Trump is a president named "what have you done for me lately?" and you never know what can happen after Gulf States put their money into the Lockheed/Northrup/Boeing Superstore.  

After spend way more than Israel. 

You could see a collective of USA, Saudi Arabia, and UAE pushing Israel to redraw to closer to 1967 borders and establish a Palestinian state under the watch of Gulf states.

Beyond the distractions, I see the way things fall presenting an out that gets everyone but Iran's militants what they want.. You just gotta get through the show over the strait that veils the real wheels turning.  

And its not Trump as much as 3.2 TRILLION PROMISED BY 3 COUNTRIES (through deals brokered by Trump) who demand their own "quid pro quo" for promising more more to the USA then ALL EU military contracts combined. 

But until we get to that point... 

USA is fighting the regional Terror head.
Israel is fighting proxies #1 and #2 (Hamas and Hezbollah)
Saudi Arabia is again fighting proxy #3 (Yemeni Houthis)
UAE has deepened ties with USA and Israel on defense and airstrikes of Iranian targets.
Jordan coordinates in air defense with the above and hosts US personnel.
Bahrain hosts the 5th Fleet and ALL.OF THE ABOVE.
Egypt is sorta just staying out of it beyond Hamas containment and mediation.
Kuwait: has more US asset hosting and assistance with coordinated air defense. 
* Lebanon: BANNED HEZBOLLAH, and is LAF is working to take control of areas after the IDF withdraws.  

And the notion this is a USA/Israeli vs. Iran conflict is just better PR for the Gulf countries treading a line between money and longstanding public opinion on Israel.

People see the establishment of a Israeli dictated zionist world order, I see the exact opposite. This leverages much wealthier oil nations against Israel and leads towards a Palestinian state.  

Follow the money works in this too..

[quintessentone]

You have to ponder which ""military genius"" told him it would be a good idea to start an actual shooting war with the Iranians...

Aside from Netanyahu of course.

Why does it have to be a 'military genius' what about Jared Kushner?

"Jared Kushner has not received direct payments for the war effort itself, but he has collected more than $110 million in management fees from the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF) since 2021, with the Saudi government paying him approximately $25 million annually for services that have reportedly yielded little to no return. 
While leading U.S. diplomatic negotiations with Iran, Kushner’s private equity firm, Affinity Partners, has sought to raise an additional $5 billion from foreign sources, including the PIF, creating a significant conflict of interest as Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) lobbied for the continuation of the war.  

Additionally, the Saudi government recently financed a $7 billion development deal with the Trump Organization in Saudi Arabia, further entangling Kushner’s personal financial interests with the geopolitical conflict. 

Kushner was also a key adviser who convinced President Donald Trump to launch combat operations in Iran, a decision that has intensified the scrutiny on his financial ties to Saudi Arabia, the primary beneficiary of the prolonged conflict. "

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"Trump said that Kushner was one of a handful of top officials who convinced him to start the war. This was consistent with MBS’s petition. According to the Washington Post, in a series of calls in February, MBS privately lobbied Trump to attack Iran. (Now, Iran is refusing to meet with Kushner, having concluded that he is not participating in discussions in good faith.)"

https://popular.info/p/update-after-sending-billions-to

Follow the money, indeed.

[KTemplar]

Backing out would give Iran the win.

Is that what people really want?

Iran to win?

I see no backing out, Iranians are going to want revenge.   This isn’t over by a long shot IMO!

[DBCowboy]

I see no backing out, Iranians are going to want revenge.   This isn’t over by a long shot IMO!

Iran will always want revenge.

They've killed thousands prior to Trumps actions based on revenge already.

[KTemplar]

DBCowboy


Yes I know!  God Bless our troops!

[quintessentone]

DBCowboy


Yes I know!  God Bless our troops!

Your troops will indeed need divine intervention because so far your leaders' are failures in everything war winning except enriching themselves.