UPS MD-11 crash

[Blackfingers]

Media is going crazy with this one.

[Zaphod58]

The death toll has now risen to 11.

[Zaphod58]

Media is going crazy with this one.

The politicization of this has been absolutely insane, and off the charts.

[Zaphod58]

Mayor just announced another death. Up to 12 now.

[Zaphod58]

New dash cam video confirms that the left engine separated from the wing before getting airborne.

https://x.com/BNODesk/status/1986237651679097212

[Sky727]

Dash cam of actual crash .... A different view. The poor crew absolutely had no chance of saving themselves or the bird IMO.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1986239536138170543

[EXETER]

New dash cam video confirms that the left engine separated from the wing before getting airborne.

https://x.com/BNODesk/status/1986237651679097212

I read somewhere else (can’t confirm it) that when the engine separated it took out hydraulic lines that caused the slats on the left wing to retract.  That would have caused the left wing to immediately stall and rolled the aircraft uncontrollably to the left. That explains why the aircraft was in a knife edge attitude with the right wing high when it hit the ground.  It would have been unrecoverable.

[Blackfingers]

Big question is why the left engine separated.

[Kwaka]

For a different take on this event through the matrix, the 37:30 mark has an entangled mess:




Everything we do has its risks, the home is where most injuries occur, travel does increase the forces involved when things do go wrong. The airline industry does have a strong reputation in learning from its mistakes. This tradition will continue in dealing with the challenges of economics and an aging fleet.

[Zaphod58]

I read somewhere else (can’t confirm it) that when the engine separated it took out hydraulic lines that caused the slats on the left wing to retract.  That would have caused the left wing to immediately stall and rolled the aircraft uncontrollably to the left. That explains why the aircraft was in a knife edge attitude with the right wing high when it hit the ground.  It would have been unrecoverable.

Don’t believe people that are making wild claims based on American 191. That can’t happen again. After AA191 and UA232 significant changes were made. In AA191 that’s exactly what happened. As a result physical locks were placed in the slats that holds them in place regardless of hydraulic status, unless the slat handle is moved in the cockpit.

 After UA232, where the fan blade broke all three hydraulic lines and caused a complete loss of hydraulic fluid, fuses were placed at various points in the hydraulic system. When these fuses are activated they physically block the hydraulic line and prevent the complete loss of fluid from a broken hydraulic line. 

And that’s the long way of saying, no the slats almost certainly didn’t roll back due to loss of hydraulic fluid. The aircraft rolled left because the right engine was producing full power, and was the only engine producing full power, so the right wing was producing more lift than the left wing and there was no way to correct that.