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(11 hours ago)CriticalStinker Wrote: Nothing is more definitive now than it’s ever been. Maybe where you're at. Not me. Definitely not where Trump's at. Somebody had to man up and and take care of the Christian murdering thugs. Supporters of terrorism world wide. We've already won.
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(11 hours ago)Knows Wrote: Anyone can give them a loan. Nobody said the US is loaning or giving them money. Access to frozen assets is conditional. Whether or not Iran keeps the agreements. Ah, so now anyone can do it, which is what you were being told in the first place... You realise that still gives Iran a significant economic benefit? And the U.S won't earn anything back from it.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
5 hours ago
(10 hours ago)Knows Wrote: Maybe where you're at. Not me. Definitely not where Trump's at. Somebody had to man up and and take care of the Christian murdering thugs. Supporters of terrorism world wide. We've already won. And yet cannot secure any sort of surrender... What have you already won?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(5 hours ago)andy06shake Wrote: Ah, so now anyone can do it, which is what you were being told in the first place... You don't invest. It isn't your bag you said. You would be one of the last people I would believe about how Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
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(5 hours ago)Knows Wrote: You don't invest. It isn't your bag you said. You would be one of the last people I would believe about how Trump doesn't know what he's doing. You said Quote:Expensive to Iran only. Those would be loans to Iran with interest. Then you went on to claim. Quote:Anyone can loan them money. Mostly Arabs will be loaning. No loan you say? No help to rebuild. This isn't welfare. Facts are facts, and the Iran deal is not an investment. It's sanctions relief and unfreezing of Iran's own assets. There is no loan structure. No interest. It changes access to the money. Not ownership...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(11 hours ago)Knows Wrote: Someone has to man up and not just kick the can down the road. And that's what Trump has done. Trump literally just kicked the can down the road again... 60 days to negotiate... with unlimited extensions should both sides agree. That is the definition of kicking it down the road.
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(5 hours ago)Knows Wrote: would believe about how Trump doesn't know what he's doing. Where have you been? It's Trump, and he clearly has no clue what he's doing. Just look at his latest endeavor, the reflecting pool, which has turned into a disaster because he doesn't understand how things operate, and now he's pointing fingers at imaginary vandals. These fictitious vandals somehow managed to evade 24-hour surveillance cameras and cut a 290-300 line into the pool, which was meant to be indestructible, leading to the algae problem.
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(10 hours ago)Knows Wrote: Maybe where you're at. Not me. Definitely not where Trump's at. Somebody had to man up and and take care of the Christian murdering thugs. Supporters of terrorism world wide. We've already won. More Christians died in our reaction to 9/11 than in the terrorist acts against us, and it’s not even close. You could look at the soldiers who died in combat in two wars, and then the horrific rate of suicides while in theater or when they return home. If we stretched it and include the 08’ financial crisis we could include citizens, though that was subprime mortgages that were the direct cause… though much of the environment which allowed that to happen was done to stimulate the economy. All of this to say is our reactions often cost more than the even no matter which way we look at it, lives, money and foreign relations after said reactions. It’s time we rethink all of this. Because the notion we just fix things by spending hundreds of billions to bomb a country hasn’t worked a vast majority of the time since WWII. How long do we have to do the same thing over and over with obviously bad results in hindsight before we learn to approach things differently? Im no fan of Obama, he was one of the worst presidents in my lifetime. But how is what we’re getting better than the JCPOA? Because we dropped bombs at the cost of over a dozen soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars? Madness.
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