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(06-17-2026, 05:36 PM)chr0naut Wrote: I doubt that Trumb actually made the deal. He was far too busy with golf, UFC fights and online posts.

Oh, and the JCPOA wasn't authored by Obama. It came from the United Nations Security Council and Obama was just a signatory, as representative of the United States.

Thank you for clarifying that. You are saying the UN is useless as they did not hold Iran to their own agreed to limits.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
(06-17-2026, 05:54 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: This is what we get when our President is a game show host, and the department of war is run by a talk show host.

"Come on down! You're our next contestant on The Price Is Right."
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
Iran doesn't have a navy, an air force.

Their leadership has been blown up.

After 47 years, the bully just got bitch-slapped hard.

Finally, someone had the balls to use the stick, not just talk about it, and not just give carrots.



Now the evil communist left will say we should have put boots on the ground, they will whine about this "forever war" and ignore Ukraine and Russia.  They will say Iran won, US lost.

But that's because they hate America and Americans.
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(06-17-2026, 05:35 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: @CriticalStinker

If you invest well, inflation has little affect.

Otherwise its just another means to transfer wealth from the poor's to the wealthy.

Unfortunately this is something both sides lean into and allow.

Last admin, we had record inflation while companies were posting record quarters. So you saw companies blaming higher prices on inflation while they were magically profiting more than ever before.

We're approaching those same levels of inflation while also breaking records on spending and debt. This year we'll see 1 trillion dollars paid to interest alone from the federal government. Thats the same budget we have for the military.

We're speed running the nation into the ground, and partisans on both sides justify it by saying the other guy did it too. We know, that's why they're gone.

But alas, we still see record quarters, the rich getting richer, and the average first time homebuyer is now 40 and people wonder why the population rate is in decline. The ones who caused all this will be gone when we're left with smaller generations holding the tab.

But at least their 401k and house prices are up, so in their eyes, the economy is ripping.
(06-17-2026, 05:13 AM)Orby Wrote: Then print a little more. I can't see the problem. Give the man what he wants.

Our politicians are doing plenty to destroy America.

We don't  need that kind of help.
(06-17-2026, 05:19 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: What part looks like Iran would violate? They got a lot of what they wanted.

More likely, the Lebanon portion will be violated by Israel. Word is it got added last minute because Israel decided to bomb Beirut the day of the deal putting everything in jeperdy. We allegedly added that to keep Iran from hitting Israel for that.

"What part looks like Iran would violate?"

paragraphs:
1,2,5,8,9,12,13   
Assuming they even sign The MOU    Eureka
Trump has signed The MOU!!!

Let's see IF Iran does (whoever is allowed to sign things)   Spin


(06-17-2026, 06:09 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Iran doesn't have a navy, an air force.

Their leadership has been blown up.

After 47 years, the bully just got bitch-slapped hard.

Finally, someone had the balls to use the stick, not just talk about it, and not just give carrots.



Now the evil communist left will say we should have put boots on the ground, they will whine about this "forever war" and ignore Ukraine and Russia.  They will say Iran won, US lost.

But that's because they hate America and Americans.

Haters are gonna hate, but like the right under Biden, it's determined patriotic hate to oppose Trump for whatever he does, even when its positive. 

So attempt to knock that off. 

But giving carrots is EXACTLY what this was about. The preceding bitch-slapping set it all up.

Where this goes depends on how tasty the carrot is for Iran. 

People can see a shitty deal and opportunity to hate Trump because they dont take the objectivism perspective, or see the real capitalism of it all.

Or how this was less him giving a heads up to Saudi Arabia (The USA and Israel were doing something) as much as saying, "So we are going to start tomorrow, you know your role, prepare your air defenses." 

Iran's decimated military and damage infrastructure is a forced pivot into modern society. If you view EVERYONE'S OBJECTIVES at once, and put it together with their warhawk maneuvers against Iran..

It's true to an offer that cant be refused. They are at the point where they need to choose Global Capitalism or Regional Militancy like it's good and evil.

Because USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, and others are lining up to infuse money into the Iranian economy.

This can also be seen as The USA using the threat to Israel and the greater region through nuclear ambitions simply to lay the groundwork for the eventual forced solution of letting in international investment and commerce, like The Gulf States. Then letting them keep sovereignty in exchange for joining the George H. W. Bush New World Order of connected industrialized economies.

The real goal is the multinational investment package from EVERY continent and focing Iran out of isolation and into a connected web of mutual interest.

Time to see if money can still talk to "gay one-legged mullahs" who live in tunnels.
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(06-17-2026, 06:45 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Haters are gonna hate, but like the right under Biden, it's determined patriotic hate to oppose Trump for whatever he does, even when its positive. 

So attempt to knock that off. 

But giving carrots is EXACTLY what this was about. The preceding bitch-slapping set it all up.

Where this goes depends on how tasty the carrot is for Iran. 

People can see a shitty deal and opportunity to hate Trump because they dont take objectivist perspective, or see the real capitalist play of it all.

Or how this was less him giving a heads up to Saudi Arabia (The USA and Israel were doing something) as much as saying, "So we are going to start tomorrow, you know your role, prepare your air defenses." 

Iran's decimated military and damage infrastructure is a forced pivot into modern society. If you view EVERYONE'S OBJECTIVES at once, and put it together with their warhawk maneuvers against Iran..

It's true to an offer that cant be refused. They are at the point where they need to choose Global Capitalism or Regional Militancy like it's good and evil.

Because USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, and others are lining up to infuse money into the Iranian economy.

This can also be seen as The USA using the threat to Israel and the greater region simply to lay the groundwork for the forced solution of letting in international investment and commerce, like Gulf States. Then letting them keep sovereignty in exchange for joining the George H. W. Bush New World Order of connected industrialized economies.

The real goal is the multinational investment package from EVERY continent and focing Iran out of isolation and into a connected web of mutual interest.

Time to see if money can still talk to "gay one-legged mullahs" who live in tunnels.

That's an interesting take, because it's a lot harder for people reliant on symbiotic trade are less likely to go to war.

Look at the US and China, we need the rare earth and chips out of Taiwan, and they need that too because they just aren't as technologically advanced as we are. They slingshot into the modern world by trade, and when they were ripping everyone off of their intellectual property we were all to hooked on the cheap goods to do much about it. 

Many are afraid they'll take Taiwan to control the chips, but alas, they could take the island and do nothing with it from a high end fabrication standpoint. ASML has a monopoly on ultraviolet lithography. Their machines are the only ones that can produce current and next gen wafers. They have kill switches on all their machines, and even if that got short circuited they have to service them.

I guess the only part I disagree with is that we had to do the war in the first place. They've signed better deals than this, they've shown willingness to make better deals than this one before both conflicts. The only reason they don't do business is because of the sanctions.
(06-17-2026, 06:45 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Haters are gonna hate, but like the right under Biden, it's determined patriotic hate to oppose Trump for whatever he does, even when its positive. 

So attempt to knock that off. 

But giving carrots is EXACTLY what this was about. The preceding bitch-slapping set it all up.

Where this goes depends on how tasty the carrot is for Iran. 

People can see a shitty deal and opportunity to hate Trump because they dont take the objectivism perspective, or see the real capitalism of it all.

Or how this was less him giving a heads up to Saudi Arabia (The USA and Israel were doing something) as much as saying, "So we are going to start tomorrow, you know your role, prepare your air defenses." 

Iran's decimated military and damage infrastructure is a forced pivot into modern society. If you view EVERYONE'S OBJECTIVES at once, and put it together with their warhawk maneuvers against Iran..

It's true to an offer that cant be refused. They are at the point where they need to choose Global Capitalism or Regional Militancy like it's good and evil.

Because USA, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, and others are lining up to infuse money into the Iranian economy.

This can also be seen as The USA using the threat to Israel and the greater region simply to lay the groundwork for the forced solution of letting in international investment and commerce, like Gulf States. Then letting them keep sovereignty in exchange for joining the George H. W. Bush New World Order of connected industrialized economies.

The real goal is the multinational investment package from EVERY continent and focing Iran out of isolation and into a connected web of mutual interest.

Time to see if money can still talk to "gay one-legged mullahs" who live in tunnels.

Yep.

In the end, we came up winners regardless of what the ECL says.
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